Patrick:
You're having way too much fun.
dougP
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:53:06 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Yes. Rivendells are too versatile. Way too versatile. Way, way too
> versatile. I can push mine up a hill. I can coast mine down a hill. I can
> peddle dry, wet or white. Woul
Well done all the way around! Dr. S would approve.Joan On 05/16/13, Deacon Patrick wrote: Yes. Rivendells are too versatile. Way too versatile. Way, way too versatile. I can push mine up a hill. I can coast mine down a hill. I can peddle dry, wet or white. Would you could you ride at night? In
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The industry standard makes potential buyers categorize themselves by
marketing efforts with catalog, print ads and POP materials in the shops.
Their self-qualification make it easier to sell them a bike. Shop employees
can be untrained in salesmanship, just word match: customer says "comfort"
I would not say all RBW models are versatile, but the AHH certainly is. I
do love my AHH, but in a few (recurring) occasions, I found it too
versatile. It always follows the same pattern:
Me: I *need* a new bike to do ''.
Wife: I would think your AHH could handle it, right?
Me:
Wife: Then no. N
Also, too pretty and too comfortable. What's the deal!!?
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:20:14 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
> I've had my Hilsen now almost 5yrs. It's been a great bike and quite
> versatile. I've used it for sporty quick rides, randonneuring, touring,
> camping and just rambling around. I
Yes Mike, your Homer is way too versatile. Quite a shame, actually, given
all the marketing hoopla surrounding Rivendells.
I think it's about my size, so you better send it my way poste-haste before
you do something foolish with/to it!!!
:-)
Cheers,
David
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:53:06 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Yes. Rivendells are too versatile. Way too versatile. Way, way too
> versatile. I can push mine up a hill. I can coast mine down a hill. I can
> peddle dry, wet or white. Would you could you ride at night? In the
> mountains,
Yes. Rivendells are too versatile. Way too versatile. Way, way too
versatile. I can push mine up a hill. I can coast mine down a hill. I can
peddle dry, wet or white. Would you could you ride at night? In the
mountains, on the plains, canyons, valleys, mesas too. Why, I could even
ride mine to
I think that it's the bike industry driving the purpose specific train, not
the consumer. But it's always hard to guess which came 1st, the egg or the
chicken.
I have a number of versatile bikes, but when I explain each to
my wife's question of,why so many?, each has a specific purpose.
~mik
Mike:
I've been in Jim's shop, & I think you'd like it. You 2 would disagree on
food choices, however.
dougP
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:15:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
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> well, Jim, now aren't you the wet blanket. I feel the ability to
> transition a bike for different uses is more
Mike:
You've really configured that Hilsen in a lot of ways. That's pretty much
the definition of versatility, assuming they all worked out & did what you
wanted them to do. Grant one time said words similar to "a bike frame
is just a place to hang your parts..." or at least that notion.
*Too versatile*... never!
Cheers,
David
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:52 PM, hsmitham wrote:
> Jim I figure your comment is aimed at the perception a potential buyer
> would conger in their mind when a sales person states " this bike is so
> versatile" they reckon your asking them to make a compr
Jim I figure your comment is aimed at the perception a potential buyer
would conger in their mind when a sales person states " this bike is so
versatile" they reckon your asking them to make a compromise in value and
function which is the furthest from reality when designing a Rivish
bicycle. W
Haha, I wasn't trying to be a wet blanket, just stating the fact that in
the bike biz, unsophisticated customers tend to shy away from "versatile"
because it sounds like there'd be some kind of performance compromise. This
misguided (but profitable) notion is what has led the bigger bike compani
well, Jim, now aren't you the wet blanket. I feel the ability to
transition a bike for different uses is more valuable. That and the fact
that they look so darn nice.
~mike
Carlsbad Ca.
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On Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:59:16 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
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> Too versatile? Hmmm...never thought of it that way. I'm a fickle guy,
> and prone to change stuff up on a whim. I need a bike
> with adaptability...good for cycling, and good for the marriage.
Agreed.
>
> My latest whim is pul
I think more people think versatility means they have to do work that they
don't want to do.
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:11:26 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
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> From a sales standpoint, versatility sounds too much like "compromise".
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Too versatile? Hmmm...never thought of it that way. I'm a fickle guy, and
prone to change stuff up on a whim. I need a bike with adaptability...good
for cycling, and good for the marriage.
My latest whim is pulling me toward albas on the Hilsen for the same
reasons (and photos) you described
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