Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Christopher Lund
There's this potentially troubling line in the Supreme Court's recent decision in Ashcroft v. Iqbal (at least I find it potentially troubling) that I wanted to raise with you all. Here's the passage: The factors necessary to establish a Bivens violation will vary with the constitutional

RE: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Brownstein, Alan
I think the alternative reading that Chris offers is the appropriate way to understand this language. I don't think this language precludes an argument that a law is not neutral or generally applicable without proving discriminatory purpose. I actually thought this language was a plus for free

Re: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread ArtSpitzer
When would a law that's not neutral or not generally applicable not also be intentionally discriminatory? Can a legislature negligently or unknowingly enact a law that's not neutral or not generally applicable? Art Spitzer ** Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for

RE: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Brownstein, Alan
Good question. There is certainly some range of opinions on whether a law that requires a lot of individualized applications or exceptions is sufficiently general for Smith purposes. Also, legislative accommodations of religion that do not reach all faiths may not be intentionally

RE: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Marc Stern
if the standard is the that legislature knows what it is doing, nothing will ever be unconstitutional. Marc From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:51 PM

RE: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Douglas Laycock
Kennedy wrote Iqbal, and this sentence may well reflect his understanding of Smith and Lukumi. But as Chris Lund noted, what he cites in the Lukumi opinion is two pages on motive that only got two votes. Nine voted to strike the ordinances down, but only two relied on evidence of motive.

Re: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Christopher Lund
That makes sense and does a lot to explain it. Although I'm still then a little confused by the opinion. I mean if we agree that (1) Free Exercise violations do not require a showing of bad motive (just a lack of general applicability), and (2) Bivens liability does not require a showing of

Re: Iqbal and the Free Exercise Clause

2009-05-27 Thread Douglas Laycock
To clarify Chris's point just a bit: In Iqbal, plaintiff argued that he was mistreated because he was a Muslim. The government said it had nothing against Muslims; it was jailing people suspected of terrorism, and unfortunately, that group is disporportionately Muslim. So the parties set