Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/30/11 03:27 PM, Jonathan wrote: As one of the "non-mathematicians" (as a physical chemist who teaches quantum mechanics and kinetics = nonlinear differential equations and systems of differential equations, I'm not sure that is quite the right term, but I think you get the idea), I thought

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-01-31 Thread Volker Braun
Upon a closer look at the symmetrica spkg I noticed a lot of other oddities. Particularly ironic is the fact that the binary that fails to link on your machine is actually not used. I've updated my spkg (http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spkg/symmetrica-2.0.p6.spkg), can you give it another t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/31/11 5:49 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: > >> >> I think the first step is making it so one can easily edit the >> notebook if they built Sage from source. The test notebook would >> automatically be launched. Once you've launched the noteboo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi Volker On Feb 1, 2:27 am, Volker Braun wrote: > I've made a trac ticket > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10719 > > and an updated spkg: > > http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spkg/symmetrica-2.0.p6.spkg Thanks again. I tested your spkg. It doesn't work. You also need to change m

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Leopardi
On Feb 1, 2:27 am, Volker Braun wrote: > Are you still using gcc 4.4.1? I'm actually surprised that you were able to > compile the rest of Sage with that compiler. > > I've made a trac ticket > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10719 > > and an updated spkg: > > http://www.stp.dias.ie/

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Emil Widmann
>> I think a cool thing would be a forum for users, where they can >> present their work with sage and also interact and work together on a >> project. ... > Why don't you research open source web apps that > could provide something like that? preliminary: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/emi

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread kcrisman
> > My suggestions for improvements would be: > > Consolidate the forum. It is the main communication platform of the > > project (together with the trac system). It might be a good idea to > > reduce to maybe 3 google groups (Devel, Support, Users). One thing > > that bogs me is that in the curre

Re: [sage-devel] Re: post more

2011-01-31 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:49:03AM -0800, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > +1 I might not consolidate to 2 lists, but the -algebra one at least > is very low traffic and often highly relevant to sage-devel (and > anything not mentioned here is probably even lower). If I recall correctly, every message to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-01-31 Thread Volker Braun
Are you still using gcc 4.4.1? I'm actually surprised that you were able to compile the rest of Sage with that compiler. I've made a trac ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10719 and an updated spkg: http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spkg/symmetrica-2.0.p6.spkg Volker -- To

[sage-devel] Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi all, I'm trying to compile Sage 4.6.1 on openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 and have encountered the same bug I reported on May 16 last year with Sage 4.4.1. http://www.mail-archive.com/sage-devel@googlegroups.com/msg38879.html Th fix is to move "-lm" to the right place on the command line. See diff below.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/31/11 6:31 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Jason Grout >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 1/31/11 5:49 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: >>> I think the first step is making it so one can easily edit the noteb

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/31/11 6:31 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 1/31/11 5:49 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: I think the first step is making it so one can easily edit the notebook if they built Sage from source. The test notebook would automatically be launched

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/31/11 5:49 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: > >> >> I think the first step is making it so one can easily edit the >> notebook if they built Sage from source. The test notebook would >> automatically be launched. Once you've launched the noteboo

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/29/11 9:52 AM, rjf wrote: Even assuming that the junk-submitter takes no time at all from project management on the "front end", the need to review "contributions" is certainly a drain. Realizing, and then explaining to some loser why his code is junk takes time. Ironically, reading much

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/31/11 5:49 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: I think the first step is making it so one can easily edit the notebook if they built Sage from source. The test notebook would automatically be launched. Once you've launched the notebook you shouldn't have to touch the command line. That's an inte

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/30/11 4:42 PM, Jonathan wrote: Ivan, I am aware that you've been working on this. However, I have not had any time to look at it. If things go well with my classes and administrative responsibilities in the next couple of weeks I may get a chance. I am very glad you have worked on this.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:18 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Timothy Clemans > wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Simon King wrote: >>> On 31 Jan., 07:13, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Emil Widmann wrote: > But. >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Timothy Clemans wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Simon King wrote: >> On 31 Jan., 07:13, William Stein wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Emil Widmann >>> wrote: >>> > But. >>> > I strongly resent the comments and "spirit" of Prof. Fateman. Us

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Simon King wrote: > On 31 Jan., 07:13, William Stein wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Emil Widmann wrote: >> > But. >> > I strongly resent the comments and "spirit" of Prof. Fateman. Using >> > classifications like "losers" and "winners", "top producers

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-31 Thread Simon King
On 31 Jan., 07:13, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Emil Widmann wrote: > > But. > > I strongly resent the comments and "spirit" of Prof. Fateman. Using > > classifications like "losers" and "winners", "top producers" and "junk > > submitters" he introduces very elitist ter