Nice logo!
Only problem: It looks like you're sucking the fuel out of the earth... like
dino-diesel!
May I recommend going back to the original logo and replacing the earth with
a plant or tree? That would be more accurate.
Perhaps the nozzle could tap directly into the stem, and then fee
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:32:15 -0400
From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Biodiesel commercialization
biodiesel is sold commercially in Chesapeake bay marinas.
Hold on. really? I live in the Chesapeake Bay area, bu
Which car? I'd buy a brand-new VW TDI Jetta or Beetle.
I didn't realize Vitamin E was such a "wonder vitamin". what exactly
does it do for your body?
Troy
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I finally gathered some info on biodiesel. A company in Masschusetts called
World Energy sells 7500 gallon shipments at ~$1.90 per gallon. (Shipments
are also available in 55 gallons or 5 gallons, but the price is over $4 a
gallon.)
My next step is to find out if I can get a tax credit, ta
Simple: Get Acrobat Reader.
This shows that conversion in the U.S. to EV's would drop CO2 but
drastically increase SOx and particulates emissions. Might as well just
convert to diesel and get similar results.
Troy
>From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>To
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Uh-huh. And WHERE exactly did you say all that? In your dreams maybe.
>Not on this list though. Anyway it's not only lazy it's plain sloppy
>to expect other people to go searching for the backup for your
>arguments and not do it yourself in the first pl
>From: "Scott & Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > No secret. I SAID that I no longer have the electronic copy. I SAID
>that
> > it could be found via following the GREET-related links at
> > http://www.fueleconomy.org. If you are too lazy to do that, that's
>your
> > problem not mine.
> >
>
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>This is an email list - why won't you email it? What's the big secret, eh?
No secret. I SAID that I no longer have the electronic copy. I SAID that
it could be found via following the GREET-related links at
http://www.fueleconomy.org. If you are
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re:TLCNet: Biodiesel: Too Wrong on Too Much
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:44:25 -0800
>
>
>
>1) As the commentor below notes the report he is critiquing is not of
>recent
>vintage, but little
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Going from Baseline LSD (regular high grade diesel) to ULSD (Ultra Low
>Sulfur
>Diesel) on the CBD Cycle (the standard bus "service cycle") results in 76%
>average reduction in THC (total hydrocarbons), 29% average reduction in CO,
>and
>29% average reduction in PM
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>By the way, I see you're asking people for their sources. That's a
>bit rich, isn't it? How come you've never answered this?
I have offered to MAIL my source to anyone who wants it.
No one's taken it. Why is that?
Troy
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>From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Recent price raises in nat gas to over $5 a million
>btu has lead to a lot of new wells and coal to gas
>plants. Those and making it from biomass will help
>that region.
OK.
> > >are only making 3% of the pollution of a gasoline
> > car
> > >bec
>From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > - CNG uses TONS of fossil fuels to transport it,
> > refine it, and compress it.
> > End result: A CNG car uses more fossil fuel than a
> > standard gas car.
>
> Most CNG is moved by pipeline, not trucks or
>trains and CNG powers the compressors
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >What is this woman smoking?
>
>What indeed? But why don't you tell her/them this, instead of just
>us? I included that information at the bottom of the post.
I did. Bad ASSumption on your part.
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>Biodiesel: Too Little Benefit / Too Much Money
>by Renee Robins
>
>fuels and technologies for new urban buses, e.g., compressed natural
>gas or electricity, biodiesel in new buses is a clear loser.
What is this woman smoking?
- CNG uses TONS of fossil fuels to transport it, refine it, and com
>From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > -60% liquid hydrogen fuel-cell
> They are really smoking good stuff here, 200%
>more energy than gasoline per mile. You have to make
>H2 and compress it first. Very energy intensive.
They made the assumption that H2 would be made from solar ene
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Yahoo, which now owns our list, and for which we all had to create a
>new username and profile to access this list, has free e-mail. I
>already had another accout before I re-registered when we switched
>over. I think it's a 10Mb mailbox, but maybe it's 5. definately m
For those who bought their Hybrids to reduce energy use and save the
environment... keep reading to learn what your future cars might be like.
If you don't care about the environment, press delete now.
Changes in Total Energy Use Relative to Gas Vehicles
+40% E90 ethanol vehicle
-15% M90
OK. That's different then.
Tell me how one sets up a filter for the used oil? Can used oil be dumped
in a gasoline fuel tank?
How long did you say your diesel engine lasted?
Troy
>From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Of course I had to filter the used oil extremely well and also let it
>From: "David Teal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Ed Service may use his OLD engine oil as fuel, with better lubricity as a
>bonus. Nothing to do with biofuels, but in UK, NEW multigrade engine can
>cost as little as half the price of pump diesel (its a tax thing). Makes
>you think though.
My id
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Because I'm American, and I'd rather give my money to free American
>workers
> >than Arab dictators.
>
>Heh. I think you need to do some homework on just who you're giving
>your money to. Do you mean as opposed to unfree American workers?
>
>Okay, so
I just got the linksm today. No time yet to read.
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>From: "malcolm.scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>First time I've seen this engine. It looks good enough to be a scam.
I've always heard the Wankel rotary engines use lots of gas and burn oil
excessively.
Troy
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My question was not a criticism. YOU mis-read it.
>From: "Rod Kopping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>Think before you speak, not after, this attitude that farmer
>must produce below cost, will cost far far more than you can imagine.
>Thanks for your time, rod kopping
>
>- Original Message -
>Fr
OK.
So as I said, it appears that the only advantage of bio-diesel over 5ppm ULS
dino-diesel is independence from foreign sources and supporting our own
citizen farmers.
Oh... also more lubrication.
>From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>Troy,
>
>In response to your thoughts
>
>...W
>From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Is it true that synthetic oils like Mobil 1 and Amsoil are actually
>Biodiesel based? On my old truck ,a 93 dodge Cummins, I used Mobil Delvac
>oil in the crankcase changing it at 2 km's Then, mixed the old oil I'd
>removed from the engine into the f
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >With the new 5ppm sulfur diesel regulation coming, it appears that the
>only
> >advantage of bio-diesel over dino-diesel is that it supports American
> >farmers.
> >
> >True?
> >
> >Troy.
>
>Nope, not true. Why only "American" farmers, by the way?
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >but as you say, not
> >well stitched together, which the sense that biodiesel was going to play
>a
> >big part in helping out with the NOx issue. I agree that the people in
> >Seattle that put this program in place are unlikely to be of the belief
>
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Will it include the connections to the house?
Why would I want to do that? Electric is more efficient and cheaper.
>Is it a true (local emissions) urban ZEV?
Yes. At slow urban speeds it's pure electric.
>Is it technically complex? Does it carry a d
Perhaps you could elaborate? :)
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>No.
>
> > From: "Troy Heagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > With the new 5ppm sulfur diesel regulation coming, it appears that the
>only
> > advantage of bio-diesel ov
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>the short trips, and an SRO or biodiesel fueled APU to charge the EV
>nightly, hook onto the EV to make it a series hybrid for longer trips, and
>use the APU to provide hot water heat, domestic hot water, and electricity
>to your home the rest of the time (u
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Bingo!...And fuel it with biodiesel..
Maybe. The EPA study (below) shows that bio-gas aka ethanol uses MORE
energy during production than just normal gas.
Doesn't bio-diesel have the same flaw?
Troy
> > "Use of ethanol, methanol, CNG (natural gas), F
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Yes they are available, but cost would come down with more of them being
>built and used, more retrofit market would develop, and biodiesel can play
>a
>role in that, as well as the new lower sulphur diesel that is being
>mandated
>for North America, to al
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