Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Redler
"My point is not that people should not try to learn and do what is right and correct...it is that you CANNOT hold someone responsible for something that they have no CONTROL over.  That is by its very definition, unfair."   You CAN hold someone accountable for not acting locally to build a base

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-10 Thread Hakan Falk
t think that it is helpful to try to to see who can "out > >help" other people...nor do I think it is helpful or polite to blame > >people for the actions of others. > > > >People have different abilities and capabilities to help...I wish I > >had more time, bu

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-10 Thread Keith Addison
Lots of people are commenting that Americans are waking up en masse. One view I get of it comes from what many American applicants to join the list tell listadmin. In the last year the numbers of applicants rose steadily overall, a considerably steeper rise than a year previously. The global d

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-10 Thread Keith Addison
ime, but our 15 month-old son needs our attention as well, >and he doesn't yet (but he will) understand why daddy needs to read >for a while and not play with him. In the end, it is the DESIRE to >help that will save us all...without the desire, nothing else can >happen. I know that there will be at least ONE more person in the >world that understands...a

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-10 Thread Randall
may have slept here >> "If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six sharpening my xe." --Abraham Lincoln ___________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:00 PM Sub

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor

2006-05-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, It is not only Godwin, it is also the flame checker on the mail client. If I mention AH by name, the red flames indicate that I said something unsuitable. It is so stupid, that it cannot judge what I said. LOL I guess that they didn't really catch what Godwin in reality said, but still th

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor

2006-05-10 Thread Keith Addison
I suppose using the abbreviation AH gets us all a Godwin award, but each time I see it I think it means something else, LOL! Well that fits too. Very efficient acronym. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html Godwin's Law Mike Godwin writes about why he created Godwin's Law, and what

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor

2006-05-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Doug, My mother studied art in Paris and then Munich, 1937 to 1939. She even knew one of the students who tried to flee to Switzerland, but got caught and hanged. She told me about it, long before they made the movie about them. When she came home, she and my father volunteered in Finland. My fat

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor

2006-05-10 Thread Doug Foskey
I think the discussions such as we have are one reason the Mega-corporations wish to control the Internet. Once you have control, it is easy to censor unwanted discussions. The main thing we can do, as a group & individually is discuss the issues. This was one of the tenets of Robert Theobold

Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Randall >Keith, > >You said: "We've just dealt with this, in the torture thread. >Please go and read it. You are complicit. What are you doing about >it? You're obliged to >be aware of what your government does abroad with your tax money, >and if you do nothing to counter it you are comp