Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-24 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Frederik Ramm skrev: >> For super bonus points, do all this in XSLT. > > Or while undergoing dental surgery. > > Bye > Frederik > You surely misswrote that, Frederik ? You must have meant "an" instead of "dent" ? ;) Having tried both, I can assure you the former is more painfull - and for a

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, On Friday 21 March 2008 11:23:57 Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'm sure each of you must have some "pet peeve" with our map > rendering, some area you have mapped but which never looks right, some > place where you're always tempted to edit the map tile with the GIMP > before uploading it ;-) > > I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-24 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm wrote: | I'd be happy to hear from you about such "areas of bad rendering", | whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are | ugly for some reason. It's kind of been mentioned already, but Dual carriageways should tu

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 21 de Marzo de 2008, Frederik Ramm escribió: > I'd be happy to hear from you about such "areas of bad rendering", > whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are > ugly for some reason. I usually split dual-carriage ways into two separate ways. When these ways hav

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread David Stevenson
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > I've been approached by a student of Geoinformatics who wants to > write her Master's Thesis about something OSM related. > > I suggested to look into the rendering topic: Where are our current > problems in rendering, can they be solved by simply improving the

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread Stephen Gower
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:23:57PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I suggested to look into the rendering topic: Where are our current > problems in rendering For me it's the routemap problem - how to represent multiple routes sharing the same street/line/etc, for example bus routes, named or

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread Karl Eichwalder
> I'm sure each of you must have some "pet peeve" with our map > rendering, some area you have mapped but which never looks right, Render name of peaks curved (I think on Mapnik they do not get rendered at all...). Make use of the paved/unpaved attribute. Osmarender seems to deal with this but I

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread Martin Simon
2008/3/21, Mike Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Close roughly parallel ways, where the rendering of one way makes the other > way disappear. Swedish cycleways (God's gift to mankind) next to roads are > my nightmare, but I see other examples such as roads and railways/canals, > big roads next to l

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Label placement. Sometimes the 'wrong' label gets precedent and one is > hidden. I always wondered how those handmade printed maps manage to place a country name, a region name, plus the name of a national park all "over" each other, interleaved, with giant letter spacing so that you nor

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Lambertus
Maybe routing is an interesting area to research as it is related to rendering and hinting or additional input from mappers. This is all AFAIK, sorry if I'm wrong here: So far we've seen a few examples of routing using OSM data but no real 'measurement' of how 'good' this routing actually is. Al

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Sven Grüner
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > I'd be happy to hear from you about such "areas of bad rendering", > whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are > ugly for some reason. I'm sure you are alluding to the redundant captions of ways that are split up for bridges or of dual carriageways

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'd be happy to hear from you about such "areas of bad rendering", > whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are > ugly for some reason. Label placement (as Steve's flagged) and generalisation (i.e. stretching the geographical truth to convey the in

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Close roughly parallel ways, where the rendering of one way makes the other way disappear. Swedish cycleways (God's gift to mankind) next to roads are my nightmare, but I see other examples such as roads and railways/canals, big roads next to little roads, ... Mike At 12:23 PM 21/03/2008, Fr

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread SteveC
Label placement. Sometimes the 'wrong' label gets precedent and one is hidden. Use spring-force placement on the labels to jiggle them until a fit is found. Anchor a virtual spring to the lat/lng of a node with place:city, name:Foo. The other end on to the label itself. Repeat with all the

[OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I've been approached by a student of Geoinformatics who wants to write her Master's Thesis about something OSM related. I suggested to look into the rendering topic: Where are our current problems in rendering, can they be solved by simply improving the renderer(s) or will they need addi