Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/23 Elena ``of Valhalla'' > On 2012-03-21 at 17:35:28 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > Some of those look like potential pedestrian to me: the main criterion > I use is not whether cars have ever used the way but whether > cars could use them if they were legally allowed to do so > (and ofte

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-03-21 at 17:35:28 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something > that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those > ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever > went through

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles Bassière
Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 10:44 +0100, Janko Mihelić a écrit : > 2012/3/22 Maarten Deen > > In Barcelona I encountered this street: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Pieren > > But this discussion might continue on the tagging mailing list. > I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the list. Going there right now. Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > I agree. I would not use that as as single guideline to use highway=footway. > > In Barcelona I encountered this street: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/22/2012 4:47 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ok, so whats the difference between a pedestrian highway and a footpath then? I'm sure everyone has different criteria, but I generally use footway if it's not a separate right-of-way (meaning it's either a path in a larger property such as a park, o

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Maarten Deen > > In Barcelona I encountered this street: > 000779,0.001894&t=m&z=19&**layer=c&cbll=41.380584,2.** > 181439&panoid=Z5Al9C_PiNq_**MeNrDM36dw&cbp=12,300.97,,0,-**0.64

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 10:11, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/22 Maarten Deen It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine: No hard surface: footpath No houses next to it: footpath High use: pedestrian Urban area: pedestrian The wide expanse is in the sense of a (town) square

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Maarten Deen > > It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine: > No hard surface: footpath > No houses next to it: footpath > High use: pedestrian > Urban area: pedestrian > > The wide expanse is in the sense of a (town) square or a pedestrian area. > > Maar

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 09:47, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/21 John F. Eldredge Maarten Deen wrote: > So why would it be incorrect to map these as pedestrian? The fact that > > motorvehicles don't use them has nothing to do with it. > > Maarten > Yes, the definition of "highway" used in OSM covers more

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/21 John F. Eldredge > Maarten Deen wrote: > > So why would it be incorrect to map these as pedestrian? The fact that > > > > motorvehicles don't use them has nothing to do with it. > > > > Maarten > > > Yes, the definition of "highway" used in OSM covers more than just > motor-vehicle rou

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Maarten Deen wrote: > On 21-3-2012 17:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as > > something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their > > vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian > highways > > although no

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 21-3-2012 17:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as > something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their > vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways > although no cars ever went through them (well,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Janko Mihelic' wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. Venice: map - photo San Giminagno:map - pho

[OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through them (well, maybe some small delivery vehicles). Another reas