Err, well you brought them up ;) But yes I guess this would largly be
directed towards the bot master.
E Ave example the bot needs to not change E to east despite it being the
first item. The logic would be that there is no base name if E is changed
to east ans Ave changed to Avenue. Deciding t
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 23:43 -0400, Dale Puch wrote:
> With regards to E Ave Check for a base name if all is matched. If
> nothing is left, leave the name alone.
> I'm not sure what you asking about with Southbay vs South bay Are you
> trying to figure out if the bot should add or remove the spac
With regards to E Ave Check for a base name if all is matched. If nothing
is left, leave the name alone.
I'm not sure what you asking about with Southbay vs South bay Are you
trying to figure out if the bot should add or remove the space? If so,
leave that for manual edits.
Dale
On Thu, Apr 8
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 12:23 -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
> i don't think anyone would argue with this. it's why having a bot
> rampage through
> "fixing" things is probably a Real Bad Idea unless it's extremely well
> thought out
> and comprehensively tested beforehand.
While I didn't like what t
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 00:59 +0200, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 7 April 2010 20:12, Mike Thompson wrote:
> > Having said that, I think it is a bad idea to have a bot going
through
> > and attempting to expand abbreviations.
>
> I ran the bot ([1]) over the west half of the US [...]
> [
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett <
blord-casti...@stlouisco.com> wrote:
> River City Blvd/River City Casino Blvd; many people think the first is an
> abbreviation of the former. It isn't, two different streets that will route
> mail (and traffic) to two different sets of addres
Since I raised the issue at some point in this thread of whether a bot
should be used for fixing abbreviations I will respond. What Dale is
proposing makes a lot of sense.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
> Perhaps we should take a look at what a bot would match.
>
> Run a bot th
On 8 April 2010 22:40, Dale Puch wrote:
> Using a bot for specific well know Suffix abbreviations only should be
> reasonably safe. IE never change ST to street if it is a prefix sort of
> rules.
TIGER specifies which qualifiers can appear as prefixes and which as
suffixes. Unfortunately a lot
Perhaps we should take a look at what a bot would match.
Run a bot that finds and counts the various matches and outputs a report
only. pre, mid and suffix counts the abbreviations. and what the bot would
expand each abbreviation to.
Abbreviations in the middle should be located, but probably not
Using a bot for specific well know Suffix abbreviations only should be
reasonably safe. IE never change ST to street if it is a prefix sort of
rules.
Dale
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 4/8/10 9:48 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote:
> > One issue with using unabbreviate
all over upstate NY, you will see "Fred Street" in town, and "Fred
Street Road" extending
out into the county...
richard
On 4/8/10 4:20 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
> For another oddball example, there are some names like "Upper 35th St
> Cir" or "McKusick Rd Ct" (which are offshoots of Upper 35th
For another oddball example, there are some names like "Upper 35th St
Cir" or "McKusick Rd Ct" (which are offshoots of Upper 35th St and
McKusick Rd, respectively) in some Minnesota suburbs.
Brad
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>
>>> my experience is that directional is a p
Oops did not send this to the group
Dale
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From: Dale Puch
Date: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions
To: andrzej zaborowski
In my explanation of what I think would be best the comma separated examples
are only to
For reference,
http://www.fgdc.gov/library/factsheets/documents/datashare.pdf
There are exceptions, but from what I have seen this policy seems to be the
basis of the government opening up GIS data.
Dale
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
> It will probably take some digging to fi
It will probably take some digging to find out the full story, and it will
probably differ from state to state. But it seems that around 1995-2005
time range federal, state and local governments started to share GIS data.
As they did this they also changed their copyright and access policies due
t
>
>> my experience is that directional is a prefix not a suffix
>
> Portland OR is full of prefixes. Seattle WA is full of suffixes.
> Certainly TIGER has them because they occur plenty of places in the US.
In Washington DC
* S Capitol St SW
* S Capitol St SE
* N Capitol St NW
* N Capitol St NE
*
They say 'Rue Saint Louis', which is an alternate name for the street (but not
the official postal name) or they say 'S T Louis Street'. I think the post
office uses the different zip codes to sort things out; but that doesn't help
with street routing which can get pretty screwed up depending on
On 8 April 2010 15:48, Lord-Castillo, Brett
wrote:
> One issue with using unabbreviated names, is sometimes the abbreviations are
> part of the official name.
> Examples here:
> 1st Community CU Dr (First Community Credit Union goes to a -different-
> address)
> River City Blvd/River City Casino
> my experience is that directional is a prefix not a suffix
Portland OR is full of prefixes. Seattle WA is full of suffixes.
Certainly TIGER has them because they occur plenty of places in the US.
> name:nonabbrev=
> name=
> advatage is that rendering doesn't need to change and will use same
> my experience is that directional is a prefix not a suffix
I have seen directionals as suffixes, and in some cases a street will
have both a prefix and suffix directional
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On 8 Apr 2010, at 9:42 , am12 wrote:
>
>>> Some of the examples comma separated into the 4 field format:
>>> South, ,1000 East, Street
>
>> Paul Johnson mentioned on IRC today the case of East Doctor Martin
>> Luther King, Junior Boulevard, which wouldn't work with this schema
>
> I don't thin
>> Some of the examples comma separated into the 4 field format:
>> South, ,1000 East, Street
> Paul Johnson mentioned on IRC today the case of East Doctor Martin
> Luther King, Junior Boulevard, which wouldn't work with this schema
I don't think *storing* them as comma separated was the suggest
On 4/8/10 9:48 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote:
> One issue with using unabbreviated names, is sometimes the abbreviations are
> part of the official name.
> Examples here:
> 1st Community CU Dr (First Community Credit Union goes to a -different-
> address)
> River City Blvd/River City Casino Blvd
One issue with using unabbreviated names, is sometimes the abbreviations are
part of the official name.
Examples here:
1st Community CU Dr (First Community Credit Union goes to a -different- address)
River City Blvd/River City Casino Blvd; many people think the first is an
abbreviation of the for
Hi Val,
you send the mail to me only, you might want to resend to list.
On 8 April 2010 08:31, Val Kartchner wrote:
> 5) Should suggestions be given to renderers to use the USPS
> abbreviations?
Another possibility is to use the TIGER guidelines, if the USPS list
has issues related to copyright.
First, I'm not trying to start an argument or even a civilized
discussion about our policies in this matter. I just found this
interesting.
http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=gnispq:3:::NO::P3_FID:1196597
is "Rosslyn Station", a former railway station in Pennsylvania. The
source cited for
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