Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-12-09 Thread Michael Welzl
> On 05 Dec 2015, at 17:02, Michael Tuexen > wrote: > >> On 03 Nov 2015, at 14:33, go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk wrote: >> >> A note just on the INFO status of SCTP APIs (below): >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Sorry for not being able to attend the TAPS meeting on site or even >>> remotely. I just finishe

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-12-05 Thread Michael Tuexen
> On 03 Nov 2015, at 14:33, go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk wrote: > > A note just on the INFO status of SCTP APIs (below): >> >> Dear all, >> >> Sorry for not being able to attend the TAPS meeting on site or even >> remotely. I just finished watching the recording, and I noticed that the >> question of RF

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Michael Welzl
> On 5. nov. 2015, at 00.02, Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen > wrote: > > HI, > >> >> I believe that was just a misunderstanding: Karen thought that I had > only >> used RFC793 when writing draft-welzl-taps-transports-00, but really I > did try >> to use all relevant RFCs. >> > [Karen Elisabet

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
HI, > > I believe that was just a misunderstanding: Karen thought that I had only > used RFC793 when writing draft-welzl-taps-transports-00, but really I did try > to use all relevant RFCs. > [Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen] ..well, I did observe that you were referring to rfc1122 (and also RFC

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Michael Welzl
> On 4. nov. 2015, at 19.11, Joe Touch wrote: > > > > On 11/3/2015 5:27 PM, Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen wrote: >> HI, >> >> As a general comment then I believe that when describing what is supported >> by TCP/SCTP (or UDP) as standard then it does not suffice to look into >> IETF RFCs. >> O

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Joe Touch
On 11/3/2015 5:27 PM, Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen wrote: > HI, > > As a general comment then I believe that when describing what is supported > by TCP/SCTP (or UDP) as standard then it does not suffice to look into > IETF RFCs. > One need at least to relate to the *basic functions* of the POSI

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
: Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports > > Hi, > > I'm cutting the part about URG, because here we agree. I think we agree > about PUSH too, but I'll say it in line below :-) > > > >> and about PUSH: > >> > >> *** > &

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Michael Welzl
Hi, I'm cutting the part about URG, because here we agree. I think we agree about PUSH too, but I'll say it in line below :-) >> and about PUSH: >> >> *** >> The 'receive' >> command can (under some conditions) yield the status of the PUSH flag >> according to [RFC0793], but this TCP func

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
HI Michael, Thanks a lot. Please see inline below. BR, Karen > -Original Message- > From: Michael Welzl [mailto:mich...@ifi.uio.no] > Sent: 4. november 2015 20:06 > To: Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen > Cc: Fairhurst ; > taps@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Taps] RFC 645

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-04 Thread Michael Welzl
Hi, Thanks Karen for your long email and helpful comments! I re-order it a bit and cut some parts to get my answer more structured: First, to get this straight in the discussion: >>> A side note about TCP, because Karen made a comment about the TCP API >> too: >>> a similar logic applies here

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread Joe Touch
t: 4. november 2015 02:44 >> To: go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk; Michael Welzl >> Cc: taps WG ; to...@isi.edu >> Subject: Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports >> >> >> >> On 11/3/2015 5:33 AM, go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk wrote: >>> GF: From a TSV

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
. BR, Karen > -Original Message- > From: Taps [mailto:taps-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Touch > Sent: 4. november 2015 02:44 > To: go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk; Michael Welzl > Cc: taps WG ; to...@isi.edu > Subject: Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports &g

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
nal Message- > From: Taps [mailto:taps-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk > Sent: 3. november 2015 22:33 > To: Michael Welzl > Cc: taps WG > Subject: Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports > > A note just on the INFO status of SCTP AP

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread Joe Touch
On 11/3/2015 5:33 AM, go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk wrote: > GF: From a TSVWG Chair perspective, beware here... *ALL* more recent IETF > SCTP API work from TSVWG is INFO. Each SCTP RFC is expected to have an > informative section that describes the API together with the normative > protocol spec. That i

Re: [Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread gorry
A note just on the INFO status of SCTP APIs (below): > > Dear all, > > Sorry for not being able to attend the TAPS meeting on site or even > remotely. I just finished watching the recording, and I noticed that the > question of RFC 6458 - "why is the SCTP part of draft-welzl- .. based on > only R

[Taps] RFC 6458 etc. in draft-welzl-taps-transports

2015-11-03 Thread Michael Welzl
Dear all, Sorry for not being able to attend the TAPS meeting on site or even remotely. I just finished watching the recording, and I noticed that the question of RFC 6458 - "why is the SCTP part of draft-welzl- .. based on only RFC 4960 and not on RFC 6458?" - was brought up several times. I