Silent Springs
Is it too late to save Hill Country water?
Forrest Wilder | _May 15, 2009_
(http://www.texasobserver.org/toc.php?iid=305) | Features
Sixty feet below the shimmering surface of Jacob’s Well, an artesian spring
that for thousands of years has pulsed iridescent blue-green water
texascavers Digest 15 May 2009 12:45:20 - Issue 758
Topics (messages 10684 through 10699):
Re: TSA Members Area Update - More TC's Are Now Online!
10684 by: Charles Goldsmith
10685 by: Charles Goldsmith
10686 by: Bill Bentley
10687 by: Lyndon Tiu
(continued from Part I)
Geologists say pumping in western Hays has already passed the limit of
sustainability. Computer modeling by the Texas Water Development Board predicts
water-level declines during a severe drought of between 50 and 100 feet
across the Trinity, including portions of Bexar,
- Forwarded Message
From: Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org
To: NSS Board of Governors b...@caves.org; Mike Warner m...@speleobooks.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:35:45 PM
Subject: Revamped WNS Website and Spring Updates
Hi, Everyone,
Just wanted to let you know that we just
FYI
- Forwarded Message
From: Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:35:45 PM
Subject: Revamped WNS Website and Spring Updates
Hi, Everyone,
Just wanted to let you know that we just went live with a totally
re-vamped WNS web page:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
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I respectfully request your permission to add
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On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:38 AM, texascavers-h...@texascavers.com wrote:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
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I respectfully request your permission to
Well said, and your efforts are greatly appreciated by the 90% of us who do not
spend our time complaining, especially those of us who rarely post but often
read cavetx for the sole use of keeping up.
Jules' comment was out of line. It's just like a church where 80% of the work
is done by 20%
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around here :)
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Chad Fenner
caverc...@maverickgrotto.org wrote:
Well said, and your efforts are greatly appreciated by the 90% of us who do
not spend our time complaining, especially those of us who rarely
trust me, if there are 50 junk, complainy cave tex emails I DELETE them all.
But, why should I have to spend so much time deleting junk, ridiculous
responses not meant for all or NON cave topic emails.
Perhaps, Charles, you should be more proactive and NOT the normally quiet list
administrator
Charles,
We all appreciate your making this venue available to us.
As far as paper vs. electronic, I can understand why a younger, dedicated caver
may want to establish an original hard copy collection for posterity. I wish
that I still had all of The Caver issues which I received in the mid
I should be pro-active? Why should I spend my time moderating a list,
when it takes someone less than 1 second to delete an email.
I spend enough time maintaining, replying to questions, and paying for
the infrastructure behind this server, why should I spend even more
time policing adults?
You
No, actually, I like very much the list the way it is and how Charles
manages it.
The delete key is your friend.
- Fofo
Jules Jenkins wrote:
trust me, if there are 50 junk, complainy cave tex emails I DELETE them
all. But, why should I have to spend so much time deleting junk,
I think you are doing a fine job! Thanks for your time and money
-Denise
From: wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:43:37 -0500
To: julesje...@yahoo.com
CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Update - More TC's Are Now Online!
I
Charles,
VERY WELL SAID, and Thank You for all your hard work and invaluable service to
the caving community.
Geary
-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:44 PM
To: Jules Jenkins
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re:
Man, and you thought you stirred up a hornets nest, I just kicked it a
few times :)
Charles
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
All,
I'm pleased to announce that Carl Kunath has been gracious enough to submit
three back issues of the TEXAS CAVER from 2001, 2002,
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around here :)
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Denise P pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think you are doing a fine job! Thanks for your time and money
-Denise
From: wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:43:37 -0500
To:
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around here :)
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Geary Schindel
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote:
Charles,
VERY WELL SAID, and Thank You for all your hard work and invaluable service
to the caving community.
Geary
Charles, you are doing a bang up job! Thank you.
Don
We love you, Charles.
Bill
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-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:43:37
To: Jules Jenkinsjulesje...@yahoo.com
Cc: Texas Cavers ListTexascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area
DELETE
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Fofo gonza...@msu.edu wrote:
From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Update - More TC's Are Now Online!
To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 6:47 PM
No,
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around here :)
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote:
We love you, Charles.
Bill
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around here :)
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:
Charles, you are doing a bang up job! Thank you.
Don
Do you not realize you are doing the very thing you complained about,
over and over!? Let it go.
On May 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Jules Jenkins wrote:
DELETE
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Fofo gonza...@msu.edu wrote:
From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Update - More
It's one thing to bitch and moan about what someone wrote and another to
think that you need to be the censor for the list serve. I find you
very restrained as I'm sure that it is far harder to not intervene
sometimes. Then again, you can always censor the folks that complain
too much.
Anyway,
Wow, what's Julie's problem!?
I think she wants to be deleted from CaveTex and, probably, needs to be.
I didn't know or intend to kick a hornets nest. I thought announcing more
material in the Members Area was a good thing!
I wonder if Jerry Atkinson and Julie are somehow related? Or are
Yeah, this is totally out of character for her, but then again, I do
have a habit of bringing up things most people don't like and maybe I
rubbed her wrong at the business meeting. I know you weren't trying
to kick the nest, but some where taking it that way, since you are
posting updates, etc.
Believe me, as TSA secretary, I know! I don't know what people expect from
volunteers or why they like to complain so much. Human nature I guess.
-Denise
From: wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:54:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Update - More TC's Are
Yes, and most of them go caving very often either.
Bill
--Original Message--
From: Charles Goldsmith
To: Bill Steele RR
Sent: May 15, 2009 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Update - More TC's Are Now Online!
Thank you for the kind words, we have too many critics around
For those of you who didn't see Bones on Fox last nite, WNS was one of the
clues that led the good guys to an abandoned warehouse where the bad guys were
keeping their kidnapping victim. Needless to say, there were bats (unseen and
unidentified) living there some of whom, apparently, had WNS.
Hi folks,
I am putting a request out to everyone for a couple of items we need at ICS.
These will only be needed for two weeks and then can be returned.
1) Does anyone have access to orange construction fence. We can use up to
2000-feet.
Every piece and part will help.
2) We need three large
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