RE: [Texascavers] Please Become a Digital Online Member of the TSA and Save My Sanity - DANGER! Rant Mode Fully On! LONG

2009-12-14 Thread Mark . Alman
No problem, Charles. (I didn't say this), but, the Winter meeting may be a good time to bring this up, as most of the chronologically challenged cavers don't make it out to this meeting. (Once again, I didn't say this). 8^) Mark From:

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2009-12-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Thank that little birdy for the tidbit :) Charles On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:46 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: No problem, Charles. (I didn't say this), but, the Winter meeting may be a good time to bring this up, as most of the chronologically challenged cavers don't make it out to this

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2009-12-11 Thread Mark . Alman
My day yesterday began calmly enough. I woke up from a Benadryl induced haze at around 4 AM and, mistakenly, thought it was Saturday and, for whatever reason, I turned off the alarm on my clock radio. I then proceeded to snooze soundly and woke up 2 hours later but, unfortunately, 45 minutes

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2009-12-11 Thread Don Arburn
As a past editor of the caver, I'd say you got off easy. Don's iPhone. On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:57 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: My day yesterday began calmly enough. I woke up from a Benadryl induced haze at around 4 AM and, mistakenly, thought it was Saturday and, for whatever reason, I

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2009-12-11 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Mark, am sorry you had a bad day with it. I have enjoyed the digital copy of the TC and have them backed up safely, knowing that I'll always have them :) Cavers are usually very environment friendly, but I wonder why there are so many hold outs with the hard copy edition? Paper, time, money are

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2009-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
Maybe we can criminalize the issue (not The Caver) and publish the names of those who receive it by USPS.:) A geezer but still electronic. -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:13 PM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc:

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2009-12-11 Thread Mark . Alman
Uh-oh, Fritz! You and Charles better watch it or you'll have started something. (Wait for it. Wait for it...) Mark From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Fri 12/11/2009 1:35 PM To: 'Charles Goldsmith'; Alman, Mark @ IRP Cc:

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2009-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
It won't be the first time. F. From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:47 PM To: Fritz Holt; Charles Goldsmith Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Please Become a Digital Online Member of

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2009-12-11 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Nope, not for either of us :) But you know me, I'm not about to keep my mouth shut. Charles On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: It won’t be the first time. F.

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2009-12-11 Thread Denise P
Some folks like reading things without a computer involved. Some don' mind. Some like to keep hardcopies for various reasons. To each his own. I recommend tolerance for a diversity of views. -Denise From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:13:07 -0600 To:

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2009-12-11 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Mark, was that good enough :) Happy Holidays! On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Nope, not for either of us :) But you know me, I'm not about to keep my mouth shut. Charles On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com

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2009-12-11 Thread Stefan Creaser
I say that those who like reading a hard copy should get a printer, so the rest of us don't have to pay for their indulgence ;-) Cheers, Stefan From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:25 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Please Become a

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2009-12-11 Thread Charles Goldsmith
You know, we can easily put this to a vote at the next meeting :) Charles On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Pete Lindsley caverp...@gmail.com wrote: Amen!  - Pete On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: I say that those who like reading a hard copy should get a printer, so the

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2009-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
Even color printers are inexpensive now and the expensive inks would probably last a long time if used only to print the TC. F. From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:47 PM To: TexasCavers Cc: Stefan Creaser Subject:

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2009-12-11 Thread Don Arburn
Printer ink is one of the most expensive fluids on Earth ounce for ounce. On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Fritz Holt wrote: Even color printers are inexpensive now and the expensive inks would probably last a long time if used only to print the TC. F. From: Pete Lindsley

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2009-12-11 Thread Don Arburn
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2009-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
The hard copy hard cores would be offended and feel that they weren't getting their money's worth for the exorbitant $20. annual TSA membership fee. (I'm asking for it, Mark). F. -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009

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2009-12-11 Thread Mark . Alman
Let's not go down that road again, Charles. The TC is coming being issued within our budget and we still have funds left over for additional activities. My point in my rant was to liven up CaveTex (mission accomplished) and to encourage more to go digital. I'm already seeing results of this,

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2009-12-11 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I told you that I was going to bring this up again back after the Spring TSA meeting. Many people feel the same way, they just are afraid to speak up, for fear of the wrath of a few of the older members. I'll continue to speak my mind :) Charles On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM,