Re: [time-nuts] 1pps to 10khz PIC stuff

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Ashley, Reading between the lines, are you trying to subsitute a 1pps output GPS for use in the  G3RUH 10kHz GPSDO design? If this is the case youwould be better off biting the bullet and going for a design that uses 1pps directly. An example is the classic Brooks Shera design,

[time-nuts] 24th European Frequency and Time Forum, 13-16 April 2010

2010-02-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
All, This years European TF Forum is being held at ESA-ESTEC in Noordwijk in the Netherlands. Rob Kimberley _ Dear colleague, We are pleased to announce that the programme for the 24th European Frequency and Time Forum, being held 13-16 April 2010 at ESA-ESTEC, The Netherlands,

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 67, Issue 142

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Baxter
Hi.. If the price is right, the 8590 analyzer if healthy makes a good introduction to that class of instruments, you'll learn a lot. Yes, they are not the top of the range, but they are not shabby either. Get yourself signed up to the HP_Agilent group (also on Yahoo) for detailed info, and they

[time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi All, Found this interesting device last week while looking for a basic PLL to replace a crystal for an IF offset. Has anyone experimented with the si570/si571 yet? www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/ http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si570.pdf Si570.pdf

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Raj
I built a kit and found that it wanders 50 Hz at 10MHz. http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/si570_kit_from_k5bcq.htm Found this interesting device last week while looking for a basic PLL to replace a crystal for an IF offset. Has anyone experimented with the si570/si571 yet?

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Baxter
It's a very good device. Used in 1000's of Softrock SDR's arround the world now. Control software (by various means, including USB) can be found courtesy of the Softrock40 group, on Yahoo. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40/ 73. Dave G0WBX. -- Message:

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO info?

2010-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A picture of the end with the markings on it would be a big help. It looks a lot like a late 50's / early 60's design. I would not count on it's performance being real good by todays standards. Bob On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Larry Snyder wrote: Hi all -- Looking for any docs on a

[time-nuts] Jupiter GPS Receivers, ( V1.80)

2010-02-22 Thread ashley40
Hi to the list Anyone out there in Time Nuts Land have a working Jupiter receiver (V1.80) or newer they are not currently using and would like to trade for $$ ? Thanks !! Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall 183 N 5th Avenue Cornelius, Oregon 97113 W7DUZ

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Henry Hallam
Anybody know what its performance is like under vibration? Henry On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Marco IK1ODO -2 ik1...@spin-it.com wrote: There are several kits around using the Si570 serires of oscillators. I built the FA-SY and it's very nice:

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO info?

2010-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Assuming it's an R1051 standard you then have to know who made it. Some of the later parts made by the replacement parts empire were of questionable performance / reliability. The side with the markings likely would tell us a lot. Simple answer - when it's not Chinese New Year, the auction

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread life speed
From: Henry Hallam he...@pericynthion.org Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered? Anybody know what its performance is like under vibration? Henry Just guessing here . . .  poor Unless it is a specifically G-hardened device, it is sure to be microphonic.  All

Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution (Bob Camp)

2010-02-22 Thread Garry Thorp
Hello Bob, My 15mA estimate for the output stage was based on AC coupling the output, which is how I connected it. The IC is then sourcing 25mA into 100R for half the time and sinking 25mA the rest of the time, so the mean supply current drawn is 12.5mA. The extra is to allow for the IC's

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO info?

2010-02-22 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Yes, it is the R-1051 frequency standard, I have one. It was made by General Dynamics, and was rated, if I recall, at 1x10E-8 per day. See also this archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/time-nuts@febo.com/msg02674.html Antonio I8IOV Messaggio originale Da: li...@cq.nu Data:

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO info?

2010-02-22 Thread Larry Snyder
Bob Camp li...@cq.nu wrote: Hi Assuming it's an R1051 standard you then have to know who made it. Some of the later parts made by the replacement parts empire were of questionable performance / reliability. The side with the markings likely would tell us a lot. That was the side with the

[time-nuts] 5370A upgraded to 5370B ?

2010-02-22 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Last week I bought a very clean 5370B, in near new condition (missing OCXO but I have a spare one). It has a HP tag on the top edge of the rear frame, under the top cover, which says: Date 12 09 97 5370A to 5370B by 28457 The serial number is 2116A01177. The front panel template is marked

Re: [time-nuts] 5370A upgraded to 5370B ?

2010-02-22 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I apologize for having left some unwanted quoted text in my previous post. Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Murray
The trick of including a PLL in an oscillator package has been around for a while. The initial ones were programmed at the factory or distributor. The idea was to avoid the long wait while they polished the crystal to your specific frequency. They stocked them in a handful of frequencies

Re: [time-nuts] TimeKeeper?

2010-02-22 Thread mike cook
Le 22/02/2010 03:02, Alexander Sack a écrit : Has anyone seen this: http://www.drdobbs.com/linux-open-source/223000197;jsessionid=LEYQTVQD4D24TQE1GHPCKH4ATMY32JVN?pgno=1 Excuse if its been talked about but I don't see it in my mail archives. I thought some of the ntpd'ers on this list might

Re: [time-nuts] TimeKeeper?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Murray
That said NTP is very conservative in validating the stability of clock sources. I have not delved into the code, but it is obvious that even a refclock like a GPS receiver doesn't get any favours. Why should it? Who knows whether the clock is dodgy or not? The NMEA strings from low cost GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS Receivers, ( V1.80)

2010-02-22 Thread Rex
I forgot what your goal was, but if you just want an accurate 10 MHz / 1 pps reference, why not just buy a Thunderbolt or Z3805A? Many on this list have had good results dealing with fluke.l on ebay. I just did a search (select 'advanced search' and put fluke.l in the seller field down the

Re: [time-nuts] Days of buying crystals numbered...??

2010-02-22 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, Time-Nutters-- I am in need of a 110 MHz VCXO for a mixer input to provide the needed offset for a tracking generator I am building for my Tek 494P Spectrum Analyzer. The 110 MHz VCXO only needs to be pullable/pushable by +/- 100KHz in order to center the tracking gen signal in the

Re: [time-nuts] TimeKeeper?

2010-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If the objective is convergence to 1 ms any timing optimized gps receiver will do just fine. Non-timing receivers are going to do all sorts of bizarre things every so often. I don't think we can blame this all on the GPS. The NTP setup he's running in the article is broken. Setting the

Re: [time-nuts] TimeKeeper?

2010-02-22 Thread Tom Holmes, N8ZM
Just to add a little fuel...Did I count the leading zeros incorrectly? He often stated Timekeeper was better than 1 uSec, yet many of his graphs were 10 uSec per division, and he barely made that. Regards, Tom Holmes, N8ZM Tipp City, OH EM79xx -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Are the days of buying a crystal numbered?

2010-02-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hal Murray wrote: The trick of including a PLL in an oscillator package has been around for a while. The initial ones were programmed at the factory or distributor. The idea was to avoid the long wait while they polished the crystal to your specific frequency. They stocked them in a