Re: Proposal to change page allocation to zero on free in the -virtual kernel

2013-01-31 Thread Andy Whitcroft
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:45:46AM +0100, Peter Lieven wrote: Hi, I would like to know if it would be a good idea to change the page allocator zeroing policy from zero on allocate (for GFP_USER) to zero on free for the -virtual kernel builds. This has been initally proposed in

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Jani Monoses
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, [snip] That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has a duty to correct. Frankly, I think there's no reason that Adam and Björn couldn't have been ready for upload rights by January, *if* the DMB's I

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Iain Lane
Hi Steve, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:22:58PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, […] So my question to each of the candidates is this. As a member of the DMB, what would you do to remove this uncertainty around when people are ready to apply, reducing the number of rejections (whether those

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Iain Lane
Hello Jani, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 09:23:39AM +, Jani Monoses wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, [snip] That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has a duty to correct. Frankly, I think there's no reason that Adam and

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello, On 31.01.2013 11:08, Iain Lane wrote: As others have said, it's probably not going to be possible to reduce the process to going through a checklist. What we can do is to be responsive /and proactive/ when applications first come in (or even before then, if applicants contact the DMB

Re: Proposal to change page allocation to zero on free in the -virtual kernel

2013-01-31 Thread Philipp Kern
Peter, am Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:45:46AM +0100 hast du folgendes geschrieben: I would like to know if it would be a good idea to change the page allocator zeroing policy from zero on allocate (for GFP_USER) to zero on free for the -virtual kernel builds. wouldn't it be better to signal the

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello, On 31.01.2013 14:51, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't think having an intermediary between the DMB and the applicant is a good idea. I think approximately that last thing we need is more meetings. I didn't say that this needs to happen in a meeting format. In your earlier mail you

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:23:39 AM Jani Monoses wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, [snip] That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has a duty to correct. Frankly, I think there's no reason that Adam and Björn

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 03:03:52 PM Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello, On 31.01.2013 14:51, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't think having an intermediary between the DMB and the applicant is a good idea. I think approximately that last thing we need is more meetings. I didn't say

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello, On 31.01.2013 15:08, Scott Kitterman wrote: While the advisory team can, and should, encourage and support applicants, I think we should be careful to avoid making them an intermediary. I wasn't trying to say that this should be a mandatory step. If you go back to my original mail I

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 03:30:42 PM Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello, On 31.01.2013 15:08, Scott Kitterman wrote: While the advisory team can, and should, encourage and support applicants, I think we should be careful to avoid making them an intermediary. I wasn't trying to say that

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Stéphane Graber
On 01/30/2013 07:22 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 09:36:19AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: The Developer Membership Board has started a vote to restaff for the four members whose terms are expiring. The Developer Membership Board is responsible for reviewing and

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Jani Monoses
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:06:31 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:23:39 AM Jani Monoses wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, [snip] That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has a duty to correct.

Re: Browser selection from Ubiquity

2013-01-31 Thread Dale Trombley
Just my 2 cents. Firefox on kubuntu without kde support is terrible. A new user to kubuntu will consider kubuntu a fail when using firefox without kde support. In my opinion rekonq vs. Firefox without kde integration rekonq wins hands down. On Jan 31, 2013 1:57 PM, Clay Weber c...@claydoh.com

Re: Browser selection from Ubiquity

2013-01-31 Thread Tomasz Dudzik
Dnia czwartek, 31 stycznia 2013 14:22:12 Dale Trombley pisze: Just my 2 cents. Firefox on kubuntu without kde support is terrible. A new user to kubuntu will consider kubuntu a fail when using firefox without kde support. In my opinion rekonq vs. Firefox without kde integration rekonq wins

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 05:08:22 PM Jani Monoses wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:06:31 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:23:39 AM Jani Monoses wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, [snip] That's certainly true,

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Scott, Bhavani, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 03:02:44AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: Regardless of if it's the DMB or other delegated body, the decision about upload rights is on behalf of the Ubuntu project and it needs to be taken with the project's needs in mind. I don't think there is any

Patch Pilot for Jan 31, 2013

2013-01-31 Thread Bryce Harrington
Removed from queue since needs fixing: * https://code.launchpad.net/~qrilka/ubuntu/precise/libvirt/libvirt-fix-1092826/+merge/141163 * https://code.launchpad.net/~roger.light/ubuntu/quantal/mosquitto/fix-972389/+merge/141467 *

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 04:12:25 PM Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Scott, Bhavani, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 03:02:44AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: Regardless of if it's the DMB or other delegated body, the decision about upload rights is on behalf of the Ubuntu project and it needs to be

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Scott, Bhavani, snip On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:36:38AM +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: What I believe is a perspective developer gets ready for applying at a particular level when a minimum of one developer

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, February 01, 2013 11:27:07 AM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: ... I like Daniel's idea of having an informal exchange (maybe over a ping or a pm on irc) of how the DMB thinks so that we can really get an info of how the DMB thinks on various cases so that we can provide a broad overview of

Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Friday, February 01, 2013 11:27:07 AM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: ... I like Daniel's idea of having an informal exchange (maybe over a ping or a pm on irc) of how the DMB thinks so that we can really get an info of