Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:18:21PM -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dale Amon wrote: >> >> >>> # DMA20121218. This is new, suggested to me by Tom H on the ubuntudev list >>> #GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text >> >> If you don't set

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): >>> >>> And framebuffered consoles. I can see *some* value of having larger >>> terminals than the default 80x24. >> >> And this is more constructive than my comments? Jump in and help fix >> them

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:51:32AM +, Dale Amon wrote: > > Most people probably want to add this line as well: > > > > GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=5 I did so. I finally got it to work with 'nomodeset' in conjunction with some of the others. Now if I can get my libvirt networking functioning o

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:14:44PM -0800, Mark - Syminet wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > > […] > > > I had tried the GFX line earlier but had not joy... but I have > > fiddled many things since then, so perhaps I will try it again. > > > > Most people probably want t

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:18:21PM -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > > > > # DMA20121218. This is new, suggested to me by Tom H on the ubuntudev list > > #GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text > > If you don't set it "text", the value of "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX" is >

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > # DMA20121218. This is new, suggested to me by Tom H on the ubuntudev list > #GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text If you don't set it "text", the value of "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX" is that of "GRUB_GFXMODE", which is "auto" by default. > # Uncomment to

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): > > Do you see any added value to a 'splash screen' hiding *everything* that > > is happening on *SERVER* installs? > Disable it? It takes but one obvious edit inside of /etc/default/grub. > Pro tip: - quiet splash + nosplash > Pro tip: update-grub

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Dale Amon
A few typo corrections to avoid confusion: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:13:09PM +, Dale Amon wrote: > that is less trouble free. Time is money. ^ more > Them's the hard facts of life in a fast past world ^

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:33:16PM +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: > We'd be happy to explore possible ways Ubuntu Server could stand out. I > can just say that historically the Ubuntu Server community has by far > preferred that Ubuntu Server remain a minimal install. It's been a > while since this dis

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Soren Hansen
2013/1/3 Sander Smeenk : > Do you see any added value to a 'splash screen' hiding *everything* > that is happening on *SERVER* installs? A commonly ignored fact in this brave, new Plymouth world is that, as opposed to the pre-Plymouth days, you don't actually need to be physically at the machine t

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Dale Amon
Like in medicine, the first rule in Enterprise systems is 'do no harm'. If an upgrade to a working system causes it to come up in a crippled or unusable state without assorted arcane incantations (and btw I used even more arcane ones than you mentioned and they did not work), then something is br

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote: >> Do you see any added value to a 'splash screen' hiding *everything* that >> is happening on *SERVER* installs? > > Disable it? It takes but one obvious edit inside of /etc/default/grub. > Pro tip: - quiet splash + nosplash > Pro tip: update

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): > >> > I agree, just did not want to say it. I get the feeling there >> > are a lot of people working on Linux these days who have never >> > set foot into a data centre. >> Your statement is full

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): > > I agree, just did not want to say it. I get the feeling there > > are a lot of people working on Linux these days who have never > > set foot into a data centre. > Your statement is full of fail and horseshit. Not to start a war at this beautiful

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Dale Amon
Just fyi, this is the grub default set up I am using right now. I did try a number of different settings but they did not seem to make any difference. Perhaps this is because of the stuff being compiled that you noted. This is the grub default settings I typically use: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 #GRUB_HIDDE

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:31:47AM -0600, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > Your statement is full of fail and horseshit. So you have worked in data centres on racks belonging to Fortune 500 companies and their contract service providers? Good to hear there are experienced people on board. Which also mean

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Dale Amon
For those who do not understand what I mean... if you have a release named 'server' and it is to work in a typical industrial rack, then you must assume: * your console is via a KVM that is probably 5-10 years old. * the rack has anywhere up to 10 other servers

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > I agree, just did not want to say it. I get the feeling there > are a lot of people working on Linux these days who have never > set foot into a data centre. Your statement is full of fail and horseshit. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubu

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 09:11:06AM +0100, Sander Smeenk wrote: > This sounds like one of my major annoyances with Ubuntu (server): the > framebuffered consoles & splashscreens that are TERRIBLY incompatible > with "virtual monitors" other than a physical connected VESA-VGA capable > video display.

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Dale Amon (a...@vnl.com): > Anyone know of a work around? A change in initrd? > A change in /etc/default/grub? Warning: kinda ranty: This sounds like one of my major annoyances with Ubuntu (server): the framebuffered consoles & splashscreens that are TERRIBLY incompatible with "virtual m

Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2012-12-29 Thread Dale Amon
I just installed a new server and put quantal on it to check it out. With the old CRT it came up with the login prompt, but it blinked on and off with a duty cycle of about 4 seconds, and eventually blanked and never came back. All was working though because I could ssh in and do any work I neede