Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-07-28 Thread cac...@gmail.com
I'm not sure how internationalization works for the Live CD, but it should be possible to make the list of fallbacks configurable either on a global basis or on a per application basis so that if a user does have the locale set to Belgian, they could set the fall back order to French then English

Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-07-12 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zaterdag 27-06-2009 om 15:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sense Hofstede: Problems: what about countries like Belgium, where Dutch and French are both commonly spoken? Should the timezone be used to determine this and select French as fall-back language in case Dutch can't be found? If

Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-06-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 00:37 +0200, tacone wrote: I really think the best thing to do would be to offer a download option for localized CDs. That way an english+selected-language cd can be shipped without sacrificing LiveCD applications. You might be helped by binary diffs instead of full

Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-06-28 Thread Przemek Kulczycki
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Martin Owensdocto...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 00:37 +0200, tacone wrote: I really think the best thing to do would be to offer a download option for localized CDs. That way an english+selected-language cd can be shipped without sacrificing LiveCD

Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-06-27 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/6/23 Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sense Hofstede wrote on 22/06/09 15:26: ... Including more Mono applications would justify placing Mono on the LiveCD, but we should ask ourselves what's more important: supporting Mono

Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-06-27 Thread tacone
I think that Ubuntu should try to include as many complete translations as possible on the LiveCD. If a CD isn't big enough, maybe we should consider making a LiveDVD and keeping a smaller LiveCD for the computers that can't read DVDs. I really think the best thing to do would be to offer a

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-23 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sense Hofstede wrote on 22/06/09 15:26: ... Including more Mono applications would justify placing Mono on the LiveCD, but we should ask ourselves what's more important: supporting Mono applications on the LiveCD or offering proper localisation

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/6/21 Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com: 2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: As far as I'm aware there has been no discussion whatsoever about removing either F-Spot or Mono in Barcelona. There is also no blueprint nor other discussion. This is the first time it's suggested,

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sense Hofstede wrote on 22/06/09 13:41: ... In one sentence: I think F-Spot should be removed from the LiveCD because it's useless on the CD and takes up space that could be used much better. ... You still haven't given any explanation of why you

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Sense, 2009/6/22 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: 2) I mentioned removing Mono from the LiveCD because when F-Spot is gone, just one Mono application remains on the LiveCD: Tomboy. Tomboy is something that's definitely worth including on the LiveCD. However, this single program does require

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Chris Coulson
2009/6/22 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl 2009/6/21 Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com: 2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: Hello, 1) Although I'm personally of the opinion that F-Spot indeed should be considered to be replaced, I don't suggest to do so with this suggestions.

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Manish Sinha
On Monday 22 June 2009 02:11 AM, sam tygier wrote: Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: 20/26 MB of Gimp is Documentation as pointed out on Ubuntu Planet. I think there is also thunderbird documentation(?) in thunderbird-locale-en-gb included on the live cd, even though thunderbird is not

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-22 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/6/22 Manish Sinha manishsinha.t...@gmail.com: $ sudo apt-get remove gimp-help-en After this operation, 8757kB disk space will be freed. It shows that 8757KB will be freed and not 20MB -- Manish Sinha gimp-help-common is not set as automatically installed cause it's part of the

Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Sense Hofstede
Hello, We all know that it's as tight on the LiveCD as a metro during rush hour. It's almost impossible to fit something else on it, most of the times you'll have to sacrifice something for it. Unfortunately localisation of the LiveCDs is something that can't be supported because of a lack of

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: give us back 10MB -- no dependencies included -- and pave the way for removing Mono from the LiveCD altogether, saving a heck lot of space ^ Never saw a blueprint nor a proper spec about this. This is a major

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/6/21 Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com: 2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: give us back 10MB -- no dependencies included -- and pave the way for removing Mono from the LiveCD altogether, saving a heck lot of space   ^ Never saw a

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: As far as I'm aware there has been no discussion whatsoever about removing either F-Spot or Mono in Barcelona. There is also no blueprint nor other discussion. This is the first time it's suggested, if I'm correct. Ok fair enough (it's just with the

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
(you forgot to send it to ubuntu-devel-discuss) *New message quoted* 2009/6/21 sam tygier samtyg...@yahoo.co.uk: Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: 20/26 MB of Gimp is Documentation as pointed out on Ubuntu Planet. I think there is also thunderbird documentation(?) in thunderbird-locale-en-gb

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread sam tygier
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: 20/26 MB of Gimp is Documentation as pointed out on Ubuntu Planet. I think there is also thunderbird documentation(?) in thunderbird-locale-en-gb included on the live cd, even though thunderbird is not included. it seems to be ~1MB. sam -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

2009-06-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
I think there is also thunderbird documentation(?) in thunderbird-locale-en-gb included on the live cd, even though thunderbird is not included. it seems to be ~1MB. sam Actually good point don't know what's it's doing there. Reported as bug #390357 in launchpad. BTW daily-live image for