Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Schnell
Goran Bilski wrote: > Hi, > > MicroBlaze soft processor only uses physical addresses on the data cache. > For the instruction cache, we use virtual addresses and to avoid aliasing > problems we use process ID as part of the cache tag. > This also has the benefit of avoiding flushing of the instru

RE: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-07 Thread Goran Bilski
x.org [mailto:uclinux-dev-boun...@uclinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael Schnell Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:06 AM To: uClinux development list Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU > I feel noMMU might give better performance. I suppose this greatly depends on the chip avail

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Schnell
> I feel noMMU might give better performance. I suppose this greatly depends on the chip available and the application you want to do. Regarding the processor chip, with most brands the MMU and non-MMU chips will differ in much more than just the MMU-ness: different clock frequency, different mem

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-06 Thread praveen_patel05
Hi, I´m trying to setup uClinux on my LPC2294 board, but I have a problem with the gnu-tools. When I start making with 'make menuconfig' in the folder uClinux-dist the following error occurs: I followed the instructions in the document "Getting started uClinux with LPC22xx" by Philips but it do

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-06 Thread Greg Ungerer
Hi Tom, Jamie, Jamie Lokier wrote: tom gogh wrote: As I mentioned in my mail to Greg, I want to check how MMU and noMMU can make difference. Good idea, especially on the same hardware. The results will be interesting. I feel noMMU might give better performance. I can't recall if this pap

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-06 Thread Greg Ungerer
Hi Dave(s), David McCullough wrote: Jivin Dave Rensberger lays it down ... uClinux-dist supports anything (MMU and !MMU). The kernel in the latest uClinux-dist's is as close to the kernel.org eleases as possible. uClinux-dist even lets you add your own kernel easily. For example, take the "pe

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread David McCullough
Jivin Dave Rensberger lays it down ... > >uClinux-dist supports anything (MMU and !MMU). > > > > >The kernel in the latest uClinux-dist's is as close to the kernel.org > >eleases as possible. > > > >uClinux-dist even lets you add your own kernel easily. For example, > >take the "penguinppc" kern

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread Jamie Lokier
tom gogh wrote: > As I mentioned in my mail to Greg, I want to check how MMU and noMMU > can make difference. Good idea, especially on the same hardware. The results will be interesting. > I feel noMMU might give better performance. Probably, but only a small improvement and some kernel operat

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread Dave Rensberger
>uClinux-dist supports anything (MMU and !MMU). > >The kernel in the latest uClinux-dist's is as close to the kernel.org >eleases as possible. > >uClinux-dist even lets you add your own kernel easily. For example, >take the "penguinppc" kernel, extract it to a directory at in the dists top >level

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread tom gogh
, Tom --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Michael Schnell wrote: > From: Michael Schnell > Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU > To: "uClinux development list" > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 5:17 AM > tom gogh wrote: > >   Which means, if I use MMU/noMMU in &g

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread tom gogh
great Linux distribution to work on. Regards, Anand --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Greg Ungerer wrote: > From: Greg Ungerer > Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU > To: "uClinux development list" > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:20 AM > Hi Tom, > >

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread tom gogh
/09, David McCullough wrote: > From: David McCullough > Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU > To: "uClinux development list" > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:17 AM > > Jivin tom gogh lays it down ... > > Hello everyone, > >   

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread Michael Schnell
tom gogh wrote: > Which means, if I use MMU/noMMU in both cases, I need to do less rework or > no rework and easy software maintanability. Are you targeting userland software or Kernel Work ? "Normal" userland software should not be greatly affected by the MMU. A common problem here is "fork(

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread Greg Ungerer
Hi Tom, tom gogh wrote: I am facing classic dilemma of which distribution to go for. I have powerpc with mmu, MIPS, may be in future some other processor like ARM and I want to keep my code portable to multiple arch. Which means, if I use MMU/noMMU in both cases, I need to do less rework

Re: [uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-04 Thread David McCullough
Jivin tom gogh lays it down ... > Hello everyone, > I am facing classic dilemma of which distribution to go for. > I have powerpc with mmu, MIPS, may be in future some other processor like ARM > and I want to keep my code portable to multiple arch. > Which means, if I use MMU/noMMU in both

[uClinux-dev] multiple arch with MMU/noMMU

2009-09-03 Thread tom gogh
Hello everyone, I am facing classic dilemma of which distribution to go for. I have powerpc with mmu, MIPS, may be in future some other processor like ARM and I want to keep my code portable to multiple arch. Which means, if I use MMU/noMMU in both cases, I need to do less rework or no rew