Re: Overloading Unicode

On 06/05/2010 07:18 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: "William_J_G Overington" wrote: I feel that the encoding of a portable interpretable object code into Unicode could be an infrastructural step forward towards great possibilities for the future. And I think therein lies the problem. It's tempting to

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On 06/05/2010 11:29 AM, Luke-Jr wrote: On Saturday 05 June 2010 09:33:03 am Otto Stolz wrote: In the decimal systems, you can easier divide by 2, 5, and powers of 10, whilst in the hexadekadic system, you can easier divide by many powers of two, and all powers of 16. And 4, and 8. Many repeati

Re: Cake Wrecks: My Thai Font

If you’re amazed by that, you probably don’t read Cake Wrecks regularly. ;-) Debbie On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Clark S. Cox III wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: > >> http://www.cakewrecks.com/2010/06/my-thai-font.html >> >> It’s not often you get computers an

Re: Overloading Unicode

"SS" wrote: There will need to be explanations for a scalable plan. However, yes it is in use today, though not by the majority (yet). ie, u and uu matras legation is in contemporary (majority) use. Non legated u and uu are also in use, but by minority at present. Also, non-legated use of u an

Re: Overloading Unicode

There will need to be explanations for a scalable plan. However, yes it is in use today, though not by the majority (yet). ie, u and uu matras legation is in contemporary (majority) use. Non legated u and uu are also in use, but by minority at present. Also, non-legated use of u and uu were the n

Re: Overloading Unicode

I wrote: It is not discrimination, fair or unfair, if you submit a proposal for something that is not generally accepted to be in scope for the Standard, and the proposal is rejected on those grounds. Well, of course, it would be "fair discrimination." -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, U

Tibetan question

Hello, I don't know Tibetan, but I'd like to add the Tibetan edition of "Tintin in Tibet" to the Grand Comics Database (http://www.comics.org/). Can someone please help a bit? First of all, there's an article about the book, including a hi-res scan of the cover, in the Tibetan Wikipedia: http://

Re: Overloading Unicode

I wrote: The common thread is for some folks to regard the Unicode Standard as a vehicle for advancing their own personal agenda -- promoting script reform, extending the understood meaning of "plain text," or changing the way people count. Replace "extending the understood meaning of 'plain

Rapid mental calculation

FYI, in view of recent threads, there is a rapid mental calculation system, for decimal numbers, though it might be done for other bases as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachtenberg_system Hans

Re: Cake Wrecks: My Thai Font

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: > They got what they deserved for not using Unicode. > The mojibake is "Congratulations" in Thai in TIS-620 interpreted as > ISO-8859-1. Or rather "Good luck", according to Google translate. > Leo > > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Deborah

Re: Cake Wrecks: My Thai Font

They got what they deserved for not using Unicode. The mojibake is "Congratulations" in Thai in TIS-620 interpreted as ISO-8859-1. Leo On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: > http://www.cakewrecks.com/2010/06/my-thai-font.html > It’s not often you get computers and wedding ca

Cake Wrecks: My Thai Font

http://www.cakewrecks.com/2010/06/my-thai-font.html It’s not often you get computers and wedding cakes in the same post… Debbie

Re: Hexadecimal digits

And the alternative is data "in the wild" that never had a chance to be conformant because the standard makes them impossible. Use the PUA. That's what it's for. Done. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, USA | http://www.ewellic.org RFC 5645, 4645, UTN #14 | ietf-languages @ http://is.g

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On Saturday 05 June 2010 12:59:34 pm Rick McGowan wrote: > On 6/5/2010 10:42 AM, Doug Ewell wrote, responding to Luke-jr: > >> "Draft" characters would be ones which are not final and can be > >> removed or replaced in the future, if they don't in the meantime gain > >> popularity within some reaso

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On 6/5/2010 10:42 AM, Doug Ewell wrote, responding to Luke-jr: "Draft" characters would be ones which are not final and can be removed or replaced in the future, if they don't in the meantime gain popularity within some reasonable timeframe. There is no precedent for this in either Unicode o

Re: Hexadecimal digits

"Luke-Jr" wrote: "Draft" characters would be ones which are not final and can be removed or replaced in the future, if they don't in the meantime gain popularity within some reasonable timeframe. There is no precedent for this in either Unicode or ISO/IEC 10646. If you think it has been di

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On Saturday 05 June 2010 11:26:27 am Doug Ewell wrote: > "Luke-Jr" wrote: > > Why not allow proposals of this nature a "draft" status, and require > > popular use before allowing it to become "standard" or "permanent"? > > What would be the effect of encoding characters as "draft"? Would they >

Octal

When I started using computers we used octal, so I suggest new characters for the octal digits "0", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7". BTW, octal has all the benefits claimed for hexadecimal with the advantage that it is much simpler. Jony From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicod

Re: Hexadecimal digits

>a letter to The Times from someone who, seriously, >felt that it would also be a good time to switch to teaching duodecimal >arithmetic in the schools. Many years ago, when I took Number Theory from the late, wonderful N. James Schoonmaker, he spent some time advocating the virtues of duodecima

Re: Least used parts of BMP.

Philippe Verdy wrote: Of course, he will not have other UTF-8-like features, such as avoidance of ASCII values in the final trail byte, and "fast forward parsing" by looking at the first byte. The fast forward feature is certianly not decisive, but the random acessibility (from any position

Re: Overloading Unicode

"SS" wrote: To the point, There are usage samples, there were/are publications/magazines even run by the then leader of the current chief minister of Tamil Nadu state. There are usage samples. Widespread!, this will be done eventually as with other rollbacks of the past, in a controlled man

Re: Hexadecimal digits

"Luke-Jr" wrote: Why not allow proposals of this nature a "draft" status, and require popular use before allowing it to become "standard" or "permanent"? What would be the effect of encoding characters as "draft"? Would they be allocated space in the Unicode charts, described in the online

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On 5 Jun 2010, at 16:33, Otto Stolz wrote: You may wonder, why I am using the term “hexadekadic”. This is because, “hexadeka” is the Greek word for 16, ... The URL produces δεκαέξι, or dekaexi. Hans

Re: Hexadecimal digits

I recall, when the English were finally giving up LSD and switching to decimal currency, a letter to The Times from someone who, seriously, felt that it would also be a good time to switch to teaching duodecimal arithmetic in the schools. Much of the "hexadecimal digit" commentary would appear

Re: base-9 digits

On 5 Jun 2010, at 17:44, Peter Constable wrote: > Can we please encode new characters for base-9 digits “0”, “1”, “2”, “3”, > “4”, “5”, “6”, “7”, “8”? OK, Peter. I'll get on to that in advance of the April meeting. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

RE: Hexadecimal digits

This is a bad idea. The best way to make it go away is to just stop discussing it. Peter

base-9 digits

Can we please encode new characters for base-9 digits "0", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8"? Peter

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On Saturday 05 June 2010 09:33:03 am Otto Stolz wrote: > In the decimal systems, you can easier divide by 2, 5, > and powers of 10, whilst in the hexadekadic system, > you can easier divide by many powers of two, and all > powers of 16. And 4, and 8. Many repeating fractions also become more accur

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On 5 Jun 2010, at 16:33, Otto Stolz wrote: > You may wonder, why I am using the term “hexadekadic”. This is because, > “hexadeka” is the Greek word for 16, > whilst the Latin word ist “sedecim”; there is no language known that has > “hexadecim”, or anything alike, for 16. You may wish to compar

Re: Hexadecimal digits

Am 2010-06-05 00:04, schrieb Luke-Jr: Base 16 is superior in many various ways, the most obvious being easier division (both visibly and numeric). This is a red herring, IMHO. In the decimal systems, you can easier divide by 2, 5, and powers of 10, whilst in the hexadekadic system, you can eas

Re: Overloading Unicode

On Friday 4 June 2010, Doug Ewell wrote: > William Overington wrote: > > > [I]f the idea of the portable interpretable object code gathers support, > > then maybe the defined scope of the standards will become extended. Well, yes. Later in the same post Doug wrote. > The common thread i

Re: Hexadecimal digits

On Friday 4 June 2010, Mark Davis ☕ wrote: > You (or William Overington, for example) are free to define a range within > that area for your specific use. Well, as it happens I did make some Private Use Area allocations for hexadecimal digits back in 2002. http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/