Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-25 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 11:40 2001-10-25 -0400, Darren Morby wrote: >Thank you; this is the clarification I was seeking. Now when our >testers complain that "this character looks wrong" I am justified >in saying "it's a typographical variant" ... at least for these >letters. You're welcome. I also have a page about

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-25 Thread Darren Morby
G. Adam Stanislav wrote on October 23: > Slovak texts always prefer > the "apostrophe" form for d, t, l, and L. We only use the other form > (the one that looks like a raised v) when we use typewriters that do not > have the "apostrophe" form but do have the caron, or when we write by > hand (it

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-24 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 03:12 PM 10/24/01 -0400, tom emerson wrote: >Asmus Freytag writes: > > > > > > > >FWIW, Robert Bringhurst's "The Elements of Typographic Style, 2nd > > >Edition" has in part this to say about "caron": > > > > Do you have the date of this book? > >1996. It's a fabulous book, 'caron' aside: I d

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 05:11 PM 10/23/01 -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: >BTW, the Slovak name of caron is "makcen" (with two dots over the a, >and caron over the c and n). It literally means softener. The word >"hacek" used by Unicode is a Czech word (with an acute over the a >and a caron over the c) and means littl

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 12:11 2001-10-23 -0700, Kenneth Whistler wrote: >The answer to this depends on someone with expertise in Slovak >typography coming forward. > >The editorial committee would be happy to make any clarification >to the names list and text of the standard, if definitive information >about Slovak ty

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread Kenneth Whistler
David Starner asked: > Why are these characters in Unicode as L/l with caron? Why aren't they > just L/l + '? Legacy. ISO/IEC 8859-2 10/03 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH CARON 11/05 LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH CARON Furthermore, since everyone knows that the Czech and Slovak forms wi

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 16:16 2001-10-23 -0500, David Starner wrote: >Why are these characters in Unicode as L/l with caron? Because that's what they are. >Why aren't they just L/l + '? Because that is something entirely different. Adam --- http://EasyDomain.com/ Domains for less

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
At 11:35 2001-10-23 -0700, John Hudson wrote: >The apostrophe form (carka, I believe) is the preferred form for both the >upper and lowercase L. I have seen Slovak texts that use the regular >caron/hacek form for the uppercase L, but most display the apostrophe form. >I agree that a note would

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread James Partridge
Waigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darren Morby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Letters d L l and t with caron > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Darren Morby wrote: > > > In The Unicode Standard V

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread David Starner
Why are these characters in Unicode as L/l with caron? Why aren't they just L/l + '? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less." -

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread Geoffrey Waigh
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Darren Morby wrote: > In The Unicode Standard Version 3.0, the Latin small letters d l and t with > caron (U+010F, U+013E, U+0165) are actually shown with a trailing apostrophe > (d', l', t'). On each character there is the following note: > > the form using apostrophe is p

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread Kenneth Whistler
The answer to this depends on someone with expertise in Slovak typography coming forward. The editorial committee would be happy to make any clarification to the names list and text of the standard, if definitive information about Slovak typography for the capital L-caron is forthcoming. --Ken

Re: Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread John Hudson
At 06:49 10/23/2001, Darren Morby wrote: >Which is the preferred form, L with an actual caron or L with an apostrophe? >And should there not be a note on capital L like there is on small l? (The >note on small l does not say that it applies to capital L also.) The apostrophe form (carka, I beli

Letters d L l and t with caron

2001-10-23 Thread Darren Morby
In The Unicode Standard Version 3.0, the Latin small letters d l and t with caron (U+010F, U+013E, U+0165) are actually shown with a trailing apostrophe (d', l', t'). On each character there is the following note: the form using apostrophe is preferred in typesetting However, the Latin capital