Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-14 Thread James Hurley
Stephen, Well, that was easy. I was expecting some "selectedText" code. Thanks, Jim > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:17:23 -0700 > From: stephen barncard > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Having fits with the menu bar > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: t

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/13/11 10:06 AM, James Hurley wrote: The only one I will have some difficulty with is the Preference item. In the app I am working on there is no clear need for user preferences. Maybe I will add something like this: A couple of radio buttons with the choice: O -- I would prefer to lose 5 p

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-13 Thread Peter Haworth
Yes, he's such a reasonable and flexible guy. Pete Haworth On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Pete- > > Saturday, March 12, 2011, 3:27:08 PM, you wrote: > >> As noted in my earlier post in rely to Bob, if the OS doesn't >> allow it so be it and Livecode has no choice. > > OT

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-13 Thread stephen barncard
I don't know, James, it's pretty complex: switch pWhich case "Cut" cut break case "Copy" copy break

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-13 Thread James Hurley
ask for it.) Thanks again, Jim Hurley > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:56 -0600 > From: "J. Landman Gay" > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Having fits with the menu bar > Message-ID: <4d7bccfc.6000...@hyperactivesw.com> > Content-Type: text/plain

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Saturday, March 12, 2011, 3:27:08 PM, you wrote: > As noted in my earlier post in rely to Bob, if the OS doesn't > allow it so be it and Livecode has no choice. OTOH, you could request that Apple change its policy. I'm sure The Steve would recognize the wisdom of your arguments. -- -Ma

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Peter Haworth
As noted in my earlier post in rely to Bob, if the OS doesn't allow it so be it and Livecode has no choice. Pete Haworth http://www.mollysrevenge.com http://www.sonicbids.com/MollysRevenge http://www.myspace.com/mollysrevengeband On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:15 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/12/11 5:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: My comment wasn't about the menu bar but where the items on the menus go. LC moves the last item in your Help menu and the last two items in the Edit menu to different menus to accommodate the "guideline" as to where the About and Preferences menu items s

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/12/11 3:17 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: No doubt the HIG police will jump all over me for this but it's not really about HIG, it's about Livecode providing ways for developers to do things the way they want to do things, not how LiveCode wants to. You'll have to take it up with Apple. As soon

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Peter Haworth
My comment wasn't about the menu bar but where the items on the menus go. LC moves the last item in your Help menu and the last two items in the Edit menu to different menus to accommodate the "guideline" as to where the About and Preferences menu items should appear. As you've found, you can b

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Peter Haworth
You're right. If the OS doesn't allow it, then clearly Livecode has to enforce it. Pete Haworth On Mar 12, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think the question is, would the OS actually allow it? It may not. I > remember years ago, while working with FoxPro for the mac, that because

RE: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread John Dixon
a stack and using the menu builder made the menus "AppName', 'Wassock' and 'Pooh', instead of 'LiveCode', 'File' and 'Edit'... John Dixon > Subject: Re: Having fits with the menu bar > From: b...@twft.com > Date: Sat, 1

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think the question is, would the OS actually allow it? It may not. I remember years ago, while working with FoxPro for the mac, that because Microsoft wanted to have compete control over their menu structure, their menus were not actually "menus" at all. Because of that, any utilities that did

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
This calls for a Livecode Newsletter article! Bob On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:43 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Standard behavior. A preferences item under the app menu is put there by the > OS. There are funky ways to disable it, but its presence is standard and > expected by all Mac users. Your Edi

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread Peter Haworth
I almost replied on this topic a couple of days ago when there was another user confused by this. I do agree that the way Livecode arranges menus for the Mac is standard behavior for OSX according to Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. My problem with what Livecode does is that "standard" and

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/12/11 12:25 PM, James Hurley wrote: But there are still some issues. In the OSX menu I now see 4 menus only 3 of which are of my doing. They are: LiveCode File Edit Help Those are standard OS X conventions. The first menu item is supplied by the OS and is always the name of the frontmos

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-12 Thread James Hurley
Thanks Jacque. Now I'm marking some progress. > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:02:46 -0600 > From: "J. Landman Gay" > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Having fits with the menu bar > Message-ID: <4d7b1a96.6040...@hyperactivesw.com> >

Re: Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/11/11 7:13 PM, James Hurley wrote: &&%R$$#^#*(( I'm trying to keep this clean. I'm getting nowhere with the menu bar. (Mac OS) I have two item in the menu bar, a "File" menu and a "Help" menu. They both work as expected in the IDE. But when I set the menubar property of the stack to the

Having fits with the menu bar

2011-03-11 Thread James Hurley
&&%R$$#^#*(( I'm trying to keep this clean. I'm getting nowhere with the menu bar. (Mac OS) I have two item in the menu bar, a "File" menu and a "Help" menu. They both work as expected in the IDE. But when I set the menubar property of the stack to the name of the menu bar group, the menu di