Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-23 Thread Richmond Mathewson
- There have been no automatic updates of WindowsXP since I have deactivated the Internet Explorer, which could mean that IE plays a role in the update process. My limited experience with XP is that Internet Explorer is, somehow, part of the operating system and IS the vehicle for Windows u

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-23 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Wed Apr 21, 2010; Bob Sneidar bobs at twft.com wrote: Hi Wilhelm. (snip). So it does not surprise me that your visiting a reputable site resulted in an infection. What DOES surprise me is that your antivirus (assuming it is up to date) did not catch it. Perhaps this happened before you i

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Wilhelm. I checked the URL with our corporate content filtering system and it came up clean, so the site seems reputable. However, I just read an article about how reputable sites are getting compromised, and either a redirect is put in place, or the site itself is being compromised. Simply

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: > I use Windows day-in, day-out, for software engineering, electronic > engineering, math, Photoshop editing, mapping, and constant web browsing. > I've been a heavy Windows user since 3.0, and am currently running XP and > Win7 on three machin

RE: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Bob Sneidar > > I suspect the "something right" you are doing is keeping > everything currently patched, using at least one if not two > firewalls, and installing and maintaining a good > Anti-virus/anti-spyware application. I am an IT guy, and I can > testify to the exact same thing. But m

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
I suspect the "something right" you are doing is keeping everything currently patched, using at least one if not two firewalls, and installing and maintaining a good Anti-virus/anti-spyware application. I am an IT guy, and I can testify to the exact same thing. But might I offer this, that the

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
I might agree, except that the recent bout of Apple security updates is due to a new flaw discovered that would allow complete control of a Mac system using a drive by browser exploit. And remember, we cannot use fully patched systems as a benchmark for "current vulnerabilities" as Microsoft cou

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread David Coker
Thought I might throw out some advice that has really made a huge and very important difference for me... I can't speak for others, but it takes between 25-28 hours for me to re-install windows, all of the windows updates and my software in the event of a major malfunction. (virus-wise or just the

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 16/04/2010 23:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: Paul D. DeRocco wrote: Despite all this, I've _never_ had a virus or any kind of malware. My only system failures have been the occasional result of a RAM or hard disk failure. So either I'm doing something terribly right, or you all are doing some

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Paul D. DeRocco wrote: Despite all this, I've _never_ had a virus or any kind of malware. My only system failures have been the occasional result of a RAM or hard disk failure. So either I'm doing something terribly right, or you all are doing something terribly wrong. I haven't had a virus ei

RE: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> >> Bernard Devlin wrote: > >> > >> I think all Windows installations must be assumed to be toxic. > > On 16/04/2010 21:05, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > > Yes, that's the assumption I use too. It's also the reason I'm so much > > in favor of running Windows in a virtual machine. In Parallels (an

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 16/04/2010 21:05, J. Landman Gay wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I think all Windows installations must be assumed to be toxic. Yes, that's the assumption I use too. It's also the reason I'm so much in favor of running Windows in a virtual machine. In Parallels (and maybe other emulators t

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bernard Devlin wrote: I think all Windows installations must be assumed to be toxic. Yes, that's the assumption I use too. It's also the reason I'm so much in favor of running Windows in a virtual machine. In Parallels (and maybe other emulators too, I'm not sure,) you can set a sort of book

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-16 Thread Bill Vlahos
Not just "rare". There are no viruses for the Mac other than the old Microsoft Office viruses. There are some other trojans for the Mac but they are rare and are not really found in the wild. Of course, those need the user's assistance to run as well. One of the advantages of Sean Shao ssMacWin

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bernard Devlin wrote: As an aside, I have for years wondered if it wasn't the anti-virus vendors themselves who pay certain shady characters to come up with these viruses. Food for thought. <<< This thought has occurred to me too. Tempting as such a thought may be, consider that since most W

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-16 Thread Bernard Devlin
>>> As an aside, I have for years wondered if it wasn't the anti-virus vendors themselves who pay certain shady characters to come up with these viruses. Food for thought. <<< This thought has occurred to me too. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread Bernard Devlin
>> In any case, since I have "disassembled" the Internet Explorer in the way I described in my last post, I am - until now - no longer the target of such annoying intrusions, or is this merely a coincidence in time? << I think the risk is too great to assume your PC is now safe. At the very least

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-16 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Thu Apr 15, 2010, Bob Sneidar bobs at twft.com wrote: Hi Wilhelm. I know pretty much why all of these things you mentioned work the way they do but I will not go into that here. What you have is a particularly nasty flavor of spyware, that has several processes that checks up on the other

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Wilhelm. I know pretty much why all of these things you mentioned work the way they do but I will not go into that here. What you have is a particularly nasty flavor of spyware, that has several processes that checks up on the other bits of itself to make sure you don't do exactly what you

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sounds like you got ahold of one of the rare but not unheard of bugs that actually infect your boot sector. Sometimes you can mount a drive like that in an enclosure and connect it to a protected Windows computer and scan it. Typically if you are going to do a wipe and re-install, you should del

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying

2010-04-15 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
The subject of this thread - which was started by me - sounds somewhat harsh and unfair, but the ongoing story of annoying popups of phony messages transported by the Microsoft Internet Explorer - without having been launched by me in each case - reminds me of the fight between Microsoft and th

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 15/04/2010 11:09, Bernard Devlin wrote: If it wasn't for Rev and it's failings on Linux, I wouldn't be running Windows at all. Wow! I wonder how many other RunRev developers that is true for? Hello! Hello! Hello! It is time the RunRev folk in Edinburgh sat up and took notice! I am pr

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-15 Thread Bernard Devlin
I just consigned windows to a read-only VM for ever. If it wasn't for Rev and it's failings on Linux, I wouldn't be running Windows at all. After getting a malware infection that disabled my AV and Windows Defender, and wouldn't let me reinstall AV (not even from "safe" mode), I restored the lapt

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Sounds like you got some hijacks or some other kind of malware. Look it over with Malware Bytes Anti-Malware. I haven't used "Adaware" in quite a few years, but it might give you some solutions as well. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/OT-Microsoft-is-really-annoying-tp1

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Thanks for the various hints! As browsers on Windows I use "Firefox" and "SeaMonkey", the open-source successor of Netscape, the latter on recommendation of our "Information Science" department. SeaMonkey, like the older Netscape, preserves the unity of web browsing and mail services. Regard

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Kann
The free program "Adaware" from lavasoft.com might help. I've used it to clean out malware. --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: > From: Wilhelm Sanke > Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying! > To: "RunRev Ltd" > Date: Wednesday, April 14

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I had just written: Since this morning - after 2 automatic updates on my WindowsXP PC, which took place when I shut my computer down after the first session - I am constantly being pestered by the Microsoft Internet Explorer popping up when I connect to the net. When I close the Explorer with

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Jeff Massung
So, I'm a Mac user, and I very often debate as to whether or not I want to deal with these sorts of Windows issues over the Mac ones (yes, we Mac users also have "issues" ;-)). As for your issue, I think you can just go into the Internet Explorer options and under advanced (iirc) is an option for

Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!

2010-04-14 Thread Neal Campbell
Obviously you have: 1. Automatic updates which is not a great idea, the most I recommend is Download and notify. 2. It probably installed IE8 in the update which has, by default, check whether its the default browser everytime it starts up. You can go into the options and turn this check off. 73