Re: F16 - opening more terminal sessions

2011-12-10 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 22:22 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > In f16, if I open a terminal session when one is open, it just > switches > me to the running terminal session. When I tried using Sft-Ctl-N to > open a session from the running session, I then had warnings when > closing the starting

Re: F16 - opening more terminal sessions

2011-12-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robert Moskowitz writes: > Step 2: Run it. Open the "Desktop tab". Turn on the "Have file manager > handle the desktop" switch (that is, after you figure out which one of > the two confusing icons means that the switch is on, and which one > means it off). > > Step 3: For the last time, open a t

Re: f16 - mp3 for K3b

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/10/2011 11:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz > wrote: >> I installed the libmad library that SEEMs to have the MAD mp3 decoding >> library. I do not see a separate K3b MAD MP3 decoder so assume it came >> in the package. But I am still ge

Using Perle "Speed8 LE" 8-port serial card with built-in drivers

2011-12-10 Thread Philip Prindeville
I'm running F16 on x86_64 hardware, running the 3.1.4 kernel, and have a Perle "Speed8 LE" octal serial card. I'm tired of having to hack their drivers to get them to build on linux 3.x... Is there a way to get the 8250_pci.ko driver to detect this board? 04:07.0 0700: 155f:b008 (prog-if 06 [16

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:18 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > The irony is that once you > > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those > > 1-page memos! > > Only if you write them frequently enough to rem

Re: f16 - mp3 for K3b

2011-12-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I installed the libmad library that SEEMs to have the MAD mp3 decoding > library.  I do not see a separate K3b MAD MP3 decoder so assume it came > in the package.  But I am still getting the message of no mp3 decoder > plugin. All of the

Re: F16 - opening more terminal sessions

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/10/2011 11:09 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Robert Moskowitz writes: > >> In f16, if I open a terminal session when one is open, it just switches >> me to the running terminal session. When I tried using Sft-Ctl-N to >> open a session from the running session, I then had warnings when >> clos

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The irony is that once you > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those > 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently enough to remember the LaTeX commands :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 21:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > WYSIWYG "is an obstacle to writing"? Damn! I knew it! Tell it to the > LibreOffice team. They need to know it. There's writing and there's writing. LO competes with MS Office, which in turn is aimed primarily at office use (duh). As you go from 1

Re: F16 - opening more terminal sessions

2011-12-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robert Moskowitz writes: In f16, if I open a terminal session when one is open, it just switches me to the running terminal session. When I tried using Sft-Ctl-N to open a session from the running session, I then had warnings when closing the starting session. I just want to open lots of sessi

f16 - mp3 for K3b

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I installed the libmad library that SEEMs to have the MAD mp3 decoding library. I do not see a separate K3b MAD MP3 decoder so assume it came in the package. But I am still getting the message of no mp3 decoder plugin. What am I missing? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
Good news: I borrowed my sister's (PS2) keyboard, put it on my desktop and tried it. It worked. I booted directly into a CLI and posted my xorg.conf at http://www.zeff.us/xorg.conf and looked at .xsession-errors, but saw nothing obviously wrong. Startx worked, but got me into what looks like

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 21:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > > > is there any doubt

F16 - opening more terminal sessions

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I like to have lots of terminal sessions open in different workspaces. In f14, I just go to Applications>System Tools and select Terminal and a terminal is open. And I can close it no problem. In f16, if I open a terminal session when one is open, it just switches me to the running terminal se

Re: CMake compile problem

2011-12-10 Thread david walcroft
On 12/11/2011 10:21 AM, david walcroft wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:01 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> david walcroft wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to compile 'k3b-2.0.2.i686' from a tar file but run into this >>> error:- >>> >>> [david@reddwarf build]$ cmake .. >>> CMake Error at icons/actions/CMakeLists.txt:1 (

Publishing for IEEE 802 -- PDF, Framemaker, and Visio

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am going to be chairing a Task Group in IEEE 802 (802.15.9) starting next month. Hopefully someone else will volunteer to be the editor, and proposals and presentations are done in .doc and .ppt so I have been using Oo. But now I will need to produce and edit PDFs. All diagrams MUST be in

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? >>> Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo >>> >>> Why do you ask? >>

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. I haven't quite done that, but I have something new to report. The following is quoted fro

Re: CMake compile problem

2011-12-10 Thread david walcroft
On 12/09/2011 11:01 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > david walcroft wrote: > >> I'm trying to compile 'k3b-2.0.2.i686' from a tar file but run into this >> error:- >> >> [david@reddwarf build]$ cmake .. >> CMake Error at icons/actions/CMakeLists.txt:1 (kde4_install_icons): >> Unknown CMake command "kde4

Re: Did DBAN miss something, & "Linux Filtering-PackageSafe", & Build huge files of the trusted websites, & "Preferred safe-bundles"..?

2011-12-10 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > To too:   supp...@dban.org, webmas...@mozilla.org, > spa...@fedoraproject.org, and here.. > > __ > > > Topic:   Did DBAN miss something, &  "Linux Filtering-PackageSafe", & > Build hu

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 03:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? As I said before, Amazon and Barnes & Noble's publishing tool

Re: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/10/2011 01:26 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > When the OS does go "thht", I rush to pull-off my bookmarks& pw's, and > "DBAN autonuke" the hd, reinstall F-14 plus the 500 updates, plus my > custom peripheral package options.. I don't know what you're doing to make Fedora fail often enough to worr

F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-10 Thread Linda McLeod
I don't know how to code Linux to fix that "gd-dm error", but if I was suffering that mess, I would try a variety of silly little "cross my fingers" experiments first-off.. Sometimes they work.. usually they don't... - Install the hd into another tower, and try it... - Pull the tower's batter

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: > Get "FocusWriter" for sure... Nice and fast! Handle tabs below! Trying to understand what a session is. Tx. -- NOSpaze -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:38:20 +0100 (CET) Walter Cazzola wrote: > I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for > technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing > try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the > content. I've been

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > > > > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: > If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus > will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Digvijay Patankar
I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing > try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the > content. > +1 . Latex/Tex is the best option from my perspective. -- *Digvijay Patan

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Walter Cazzola
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, NOSpaze wrote: I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Linda McLeod
Get "FocusWriter" for sure... When it loads first time, click f11... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-10 Thread jackson byers
F14 login fails on backup copy I have a working F14 [call it F14usb8] on sda8 on my external usb. I made a backup copy onto my 2nd scsi disk, seen as sdc7 [call it F14sdc7] This was preparation for using it for preupgrade to F16. Booting F14sdc7 at first looks normal. But I am unable to log in:

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > > > > Why do you ask? > > Yea thats me, why do you ask? are yo

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 16:20 +, mike cloaked wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > On 12/10/2011 10:29 AM, johnc0...@verizon.net wrote: > >> I maintain a server with a number of users, and just recently upgraded to > >> > >> Fedora 16 from Fedora 11. I did a clean

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 11:05 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could be what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific article

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/12/11 16:20, mike cloaked wrote: but if the user base grows and > there are many more machines it would become desirable to move to a > central user auth system - like LDAP - in the past I have tried to > look through the documentation with a view to implementing an LDAP > scheme - such as

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 12/10/2011 10:29 AM, johnc0...@verizon.net wrote: >> I maintain a server with a number of users, and just recently upgraded to >> >> Fedora 16 from Fedora 11. I did a clean install so all of the users now >> have >> >> to reset their pas

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/10/2011 10:44 AM, johnc0...@verizon.net wrote: > > I did save the password and shadow file, but it looks like the seed for the > hash function changes through the upgrade. I admit that I didn't try using > old > files, though. The old hashes are still supported - tho you could encoura

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: > I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could > be > what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific articles during my mastergrade studies using

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread johnc0102
On Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:37:05 AM Genes MailLists wrote: > On 12/10/2011 10:29 AM, johnc0...@verizon.net wrote: > > I maintain a server with a number of users, and just recently upgraded > > to > > > > Fedora 16 from Fedora 11. I did a clean install so all of the users now > > have > > >

Re: Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/10/2011 10:29 AM, johnc0...@verizon.net wrote: > I maintain a server with a number of users, and just recently upgraded to > > Fedora 16 from Fedora 11. I did a clean install so all of the users now > have > > to reset their passwords. The question I have is: what is the preferred > method

Maintaining Users Passwords Through an Upgrade

2011-12-10 Thread johnc0102
I maintain a server with a number of users, and just recently upgraded to Fedora 16 from Fedora 11. I did a clean install so all of the users now have to reset their passwords. The question I have is: what is the preferred method of managing user passwords so that their passwords will carry

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

2011-12-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I read this after responding to Mike's response   I think you are >> probably on to something with the X server and/or video driver/HW.  It >> may be helpful to know if you and Mike

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > > Why do you ask? Yea thats me, why do you ask? are you my neighbor? :) -- NOSpaze -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mos

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:29 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: > > Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, > > NOSpaze a écrit : > > >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > > >a book > ... > > sgml/xml does this. But it's no

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: > Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, > NOSpaze a écrit : > >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > >a book ... > sgml/xml does this. But it's no wysiwyg... And it's not a software. What question are you ans

Re: pdfedit in F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/10/2011 10:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 10/12/11 09:42, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi, >> >> anybody knows how to get pdfedit in F16? I used it in F15, version >> pdfedit-0.4.5-3.fc15.x86_64 > > First maybe find out why it's no longer in F16, > has it been orphaned? > > If you really need

Re: pdfedit in F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/12/11 09:42, Joachim Backes wrote: Forgot yo paste: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/pdfedit -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin

Re: pdfedit in F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/12/11 09:42, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi, > > anybody knows how to get pdfedit in F16? I used it in F15, version > pdfedit-0.4.5-3.fc15.x86_64 > > Kind regards > > Joachim Backes > > http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes > > > > First maybe find out why it's no longer in F16, has it been orphaned

pdfedit in F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi, anybody knows how to get pdfedit in F16? I used it in F15, version pdfedit-0.4.5-3.fc15.x86_64 Kind regards Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Marc Blanc
Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze a écrit : >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing >a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too >slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' >advise to change OS, I'm a s