http://blog.gerhards.net/2011/11/what-i-dont-like-about-journald.html -
the true how systemd owner handles the cases
http://blog.gerhards.net/2011/11/journald-log-hash-chaining-is-broken.html -
What Lennart said is bullshit. If someone break in your system and can edit
your syslogs it means the a
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 17:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:52 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balint Szigeti >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:52 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balint Szigeti
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >&g
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 17:23 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2014-09-14 17:06 GMT+03:00 Balint Szigeti :
> > WTF?*** sorry about inappropriate language. I've just upset a little bit.
> > Why does a deamon have a config file if it doesn't read it?
> > journalct
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:52 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2014-09-14 16:36 GMT+03:00 Balint Szigeti :
> > On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> >
> > 2014-09-14 15:22 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy :
> > I have already done it that you wro
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2014-09-14 15:22 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy :
> > As a matter of interest, I changed Storage to volatile
> > and re-booted my laptop,
> > but this did not seem to have any effect -
> > journalctl still gives over 500,000 lines (I stopped t
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 14:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2014-09-14 14:01 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy :
> > Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> >
> >> It is not slow if you have little journal content, as you would in
> >> cases where you prefer plain-text logs and set journald to not keep a
> >> persisten
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
>
> > today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked)
> > systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled
> > syst
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
>
> > today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked)
> > systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled
> > syst
okay, I figured it out. If the journalctl doesn't run neither rsyslog
nor journalctl (last one is obvious) don't get anything.
after I started the journalctl the logger output appeared in journalclt
and tail /var/log/messages output.
Balint
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 19:04 +0100, Bali
hello
today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked)
systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled
systemd-journald.socket as well.
It broke my system. After I closed the sudo session I could gain root
access plus I couldn't start any program only forks
t; topic "New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100
>
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100
> Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
> > What do you think guyes?
>
> I think these guys have a better plan:
>
> http://boycottsystemd.org/
Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head o
hello all
I've just read this artic.
http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
What do you think guyes?
Does systemd really want to be the 'core-engine' for an OS? It sound
ridiculous for me. As I remember their target was (only) replace the
init, then they did m
hello
I don't know where I should send this email but I'd like to ask the DNF
developer to the DNF application examine the proxy settings and if the
user run the DNF command with debug option list the all steps instead of
yum.
I just had a case when I couldn't install RPMs by yum.
I traced the ne
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 02:19 +0930, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 28 July 2014, Balint Szigeti sent:
> > I have two DVDs which contains AVI files. I can't read it in my fedora
> > box but it works in gentoo and windows.
> >
> > I used the DVD drive and the DV
hello
I have two DVDs which contains AVI files. I can't read it in my fedora
box but it works in gentoo and windows.
I used the DVD drive and the DVDs before so I don't think it is a HW
problem.
I got this in dmesg:
[ 7892.555826] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code
[ 7892.555834] sr 1:0:0:0:
> A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration
> files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is
> broken by design.
pls don't start it.
I could find anything else. The only reason I've found systemd because I
worked with it nowadays.
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Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit?
Cite man 7 hier
..
/usr/lib
Object libraries, including dynamic libraries, plus some
executables which usually are not invoked directly. More complicated
pro‐
grams may have whole subdirectories there.
as I know, systemd will start the *.service first! and then the sysvinit
scripts.
I think that can cause the problem. Maybe if you create a foo.service
which point to your sysvinit script and
set the right order in dependency list.
maybe, I'm just guessing.
On Sun, 2014-07-13 at 10:57 +10
On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 11:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:00:45 -0400
> Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> > Now, here's my hack, which is basically a clone of that NetworkManager
> > subpackage:
>
> You're willing to invest a lot more time in systemd than
> I am :-). I just put a
I didn't have chance to try but I think the latest kernel fixes it:
> $ rpm -q --changelog kernel-3.15.4-200.fc20|more
> * Mon Jul 07 2014 Justin M. Forbes 3.15.4-200
> - Linux v3.15.4
> - Fixes CVE-2014-4715 (rhbz 1115767 1116362)
> - Fixes CVE-2014-4699 (rhbz 1115927 1116477)
>
> * Tue Jul 01
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 14:10 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> Balint Szigeti writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > > Ed Greshko writes:
>
> ...
>
> >> Some kind of a hardware-dependent race conditi
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 15:58 +0200, Pal, Laszlo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In one of the previous update some clever guy made tint2 as dependency
> of Cinnamon... I don't know why, but it seems making my favourite
> environment much more unstable than earlier. At least handling the
> systray is a complete m
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Ed Greshko writes:
>
> > On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> > > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
> > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
> > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
> > Does it mean, if I remove
hello
Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
Does it mean, if I remove this package I can't examine what happened
during the boot or I can not boot?
Balint
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On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 14:09 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
> On 10.7.2014 13:30, Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:35 +0200, lee wrote:
> >
> > > David Benfell writes:
> > >
> > > > I guess the two questio
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:35 +0200, lee wrote:
> David Benfell writes:
>
> > I guess the two questions I'm reaching for are:
> >
> > 1) Is systemd conceptually broken, just a really bad idea from the
> > start? Some people say yes, and some of them argue well.
>
> So far, I've seen only argument
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 06:49 +0200, poma wrote:
> From: Tom H
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00172.html
> Why are you trolling both the Debian and Fedora lists with this
> nonsense simultaneously?
> ...
>
> Ref.
> [debian-user] why do we use systemd?
> https://
On Sat, 2014-07-05 at 20:15 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:10:40 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:56:09 -0600
> > Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > > With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
> >
> > With journald all output is saved in a b
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