Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-12 Thread Pavel Lisy
NOSpaze píše v Pá 09. 12. 2011 v 21:22 +0100: > Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS, I'm

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola >> wrote: >> > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 >> > Tom Horsley wrote: >> > >> >> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 >> >> Patrick O'

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 03:00 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > WYSIWYG forces you to make decisions at every turn about what the > > final result looks like. Markup systems such as LaTeX or the SGML > > variants, espcially with good editor support,

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > WYSIWYG forces you to make decisions at every turn about what the > final result looks like. Markup systems such as LaTeX or the SGML > variants, espcially with good editor support, let you describe what > you're writing (this is a Cha

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: > On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola > wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 > > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> > >> > The irony is that once you > >> > learn a

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: > On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola > wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 > > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> > >> > The irony is that once you > >> > learn

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:18 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > The irony is that once you > > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those > > 1-page memos! > > Only if you write them frequently enough to re

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> Besides which, most WYSIWYG systems run a poor second to TeX/LaTeX when >> it comes to the excellence of the final result, and if there's any >> mathematical content there's no contest. There's a reason most >> mathematicians and physicists us

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Besides which, most WYSIWYG systems run a poor second to TeX/LaTeX when > it comes to the excellence of the final result, and if there's any > mathematical content there's no contest. There's a reason most > mathematicians and physicists

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> > The irony is that once you >> > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing >> > those 1-pag

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > The irony is that once you > > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing > > those 1-page memos! > > Only if you write them frequently enough to r

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:18 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > The irony is that once you > > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those > > 1-page memos! > > Only if you write them frequently enough to rem

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The irony is that once you > learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those > 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently enough to remember the LaTeX commands :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 21:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > WYSIWYG "is an obstacle to writing"? Damn! I knew it! Tell it to the > LibreOffice team. They need to know it. There's writing and there's writing. LO competes with MS Office, which in turn is aimed primarily at office use (duh). As you go from 1

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 21:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > > > is there any doubt

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? >>> Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo >>> >>> Why do you ask? >>

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 03:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? As I said before, Amazon and Barnes & Noble's publishing tool

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: > Get "FocusWriter" for sure... Nice and fast! Handle tabs below! Trying to understand what a session is. Tx. -- NOSpaze -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:38:20 +0100 (CET) Walter Cazzola wrote: > I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for > technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing > try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the > content. I've been

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > > > > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: > If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus > will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Digvijay Patankar
I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing > try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the > content. > +1 . Latex/Tex is the best option from my perspective. -- *Digvijay Patan

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Walter Cazzola
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, NOSpaze wrote: I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Linda McLeod
Get "FocusWriter" for sure... When it loads first time, click f11... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > > > > Why do you ask? > > Yea thats me, why do you ask? are yo

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 11:05 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could be what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific article

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: > I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could > be > what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific articles during my mastergrade studies using

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? > > Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > > Why do you ask? Yea thats me, why do you ask? are you my neighbor? :) -- NOSpaze -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mos

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:29 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: > > Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, > > NOSpaze a écrit : > > >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > > >a book > ... > > sgml/xml does this. But it's no

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: > Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, > NOSpaze a écrit : > >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > >a book ... > sgml/xml does this. But it's no wysiwyg... And it's not a software. What question are you ans

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Marc Blanc
Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze a écrit : >I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing >a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too >slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' >advise to change OS, I'm a s

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread NOSpaze
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 13:28 -0700, Peter Gueckel wrote: > NOSpaze wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. P

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Chris Tyler
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 22:04 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > > slow and unappropriate w

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: > Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS,

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100 NOSpaze wrote: > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book lyx -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! -- users mailing list users

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Rikke D. Giles
On 12/09/2011 12:22:15 PM, NOSpaze wrote: > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of > writing a book > Mind mapping (freemind is ok, any alternatives?), editing separated > chapters and ordering afterwards, possibility of looking a list of > sections or chapters summari

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread jack wallen
> Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. >

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:22 PM, NOSpaze wrote: > Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS, I'm

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread jack wallen
> Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. >

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Peter Gueckel
NOSpaze wrote: > Hi. > > I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing > a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too > slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' > advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on a

Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread NOSpaze
Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. Mind mappin