Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:46 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on

Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Anshul Chauhan wrote: we have to copy KAM.cf to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its integration with spamassassin or something else is to done I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7 Any add-on rules should be placed in the same directory as your local.cf (ie:

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:46 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on

Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Anshul Chauhan wrote: we have to copy KAM.cf to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its integration with spamassassin or something else is to done I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7 On 30.06.09 02:11, Matt Kettler wrote: Any add-on rules should be placed in the same

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Jason Haar schrieb: All this talk about trying to catch urls that contain spaces/etc got me thinking: why isn't this a standard SA feature? i.e if SA sees www(whitespace|comma|period)-combo(therest), then rewrite it as the url and process. How would you distinguish between ... go to WWW

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. And what about URLs that don't start with WWW, like http://

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Martin Gregorie schrieb: ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. Maybe I was not clear: The last one is NOT an url.

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 12:30:14, schrieb Jan P. Kessler: How would you distinguish between ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... to prevent SA trying to look up www.he.saw? Is SAW a valid TOPLEVEL domain? SA could use a list of

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 11:58:20, schrieb Martin Gregorie: http:// meds spammer org That should be scored positive too, for the same reason. And in my org this should no happen... my.org is a valid domain FOR SALE. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Michelle Konzack wrote: Is SAW a valid TOPLEVEL domain? SA could use a list of valid TLD's. Ok, let's change that (do not forget that there's more than .com) the www seems to become the primary source of information these days (-www.seems.to?) And I think we agree, that it would

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 6/30/2009 1:18 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 12:30:14, schrieb Jan P. Kessler: How would you distinguish between ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... to prevent SA trying to look up www.he.saw? Is SAW a valid

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Martin Gregorie schrieb: ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Martin Gregorie schrieb: What makes you think I'm using URI tests or that any of these would be recognised as a URI? My tests are simple body tests with {1,n} limits on repetitions to keep things under control. So you want obfuscated urls to be recognised as urls but not treated as urls?

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
So you want obfuscated urls to be recognised as urls but not treated as urls? Of course. Its spam. If this is just for a few own pcre body rules, I'd suggest you to handle those de-obfuscations in your rules. Guess what I'm doing. You can also publish your own plugin, if you think that it

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Martin Gregorie schrieb: ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. Maybe I was not clear: The last one is NOT an url.

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Wilcock
Le 30/06/2009 17:16, John Hardin a écrit : ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... (- www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused with English words, never mind other languages.

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
John Wilcock wrote: ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... (- www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused with English words, never mind other languages. Do you really want

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, John Wilcock wrote: Le 30/06/2009 17:16, John Hardin a écrit : ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... (- www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused with

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 13:50:09, schrieb Yet Another Ninja: See RegistrarBoundaries.pm in SA source and http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/90_2tld.cf I know this list, but these are only domains, where you can get a 3rd Level Domain like on free.fr as http://tamay.dogan.free.fr/ which was

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:10:36 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: On 30.06.09 07:06, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? She apparently does not have control over

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 04:33:57, schrieb Benny Pedersen: what ip ? [michelle.konz...@michelle1:~] host 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org has address 127.0.0.11 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS server is full of it) of DNS checks but ZEN does

SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread John Horne
Hello, Using SA 3.2.5 I read in the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf man page that: report_safe ( 0 | 1 | 2 ) (default: 1) ... If this option is set to 0, incoming spam is only modified by adding some X-Spam- headers and no changes will be made to the body. In

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 21:57 +0100, John Horne wrote: I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: clear_report_template report Score=_SCORE_ tests=_TESTS_ autolearn=_AUTOLEARN_ The report option does not

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why ZEN is never executed. If you know more

X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
Hi, I've started seeing spam email containing an X-Mailer header which is the domain name of the From header. Eg: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? -- Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Mark Martinec
X-spam-report: Score=-6.9 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham That is not a standard SA header. Actually, there's quite a lot fishy about that. First of all, SA is incapable of adding it -- all SA generated headers start with X-Spam- (note the uppercase S,

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 01:23, Mike Cardwell wrote: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging, would be faster to reject sender in mta -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 1, 2009 01:23, Mike Cardwell wrote: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging ...unless you just do a

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 00:23 +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote: I've started seeing spam email containing an X-Mailer header which is the domain name of the From header. Eg: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com The *first* question should be, how are

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 16:50 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging Meep. Wrong!

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:26 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: X-spam-report: Score=-6.9 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham That is not a standard SA header. Actually, there's quite a lot fishy about that. First of all, SA is incapable of adding it -- all

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 16:50 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: From: Compare and Cover Life i...@3009943.webguide103.com X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this?

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:15:56 +0200 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote: Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Both of you. ;) Mea culpa. I _never_ think of header ALL rules. See my RATWARE_OUTLOOK rule. ;) Reminds me of an important bit I meant to add, but forgot. It's pretty important to properly anchor matches and limit wildcard matching with multi-line RE's -- otherwise they can easily bog down

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread LuKreme
On 30-Jun-2009, at 14:57, John Horne wrote: I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: Raising the required score is clearly a mistake. Setting report safe to 0 is generally user-hostile. Setting it to one is the

Re: www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread LuKreme
On 29-Jun-2009, at 10:53, Kevin Parris wrote: It is folly to underestimate the stupidity and/or gullibility of humans. Just because the link won't work as-is in the message does NOT mean people out there won't retype it, corrected, into their browser address box. It is my opinion that if

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 18:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 30-Jun-2009, at 14:57, John Horne wrote: I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: Raising the required score is clearly a mistake. Setting report safe to 0

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:15 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I