RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-01 Thread Rob MacKillop
Stanley, I can see the attraction of, say, a Mel Bay edition (Stanley Yates Series, of course!) of important works such as the Bartolotti - setting aside my reservations about playing this stuff on a modern classical guitar (better on a 12-string guitar...). So I'll try to clarify my thoughts. We

Re: Tarantella for r-guitar or b-guitar?

2005-03-01 Thread KennethBeLute
To Arto: I support your interest in the Tarantella dance!! If you would like to hear some interesting and compelling interpretations of many tarantellas, accompanied by some very informative and fascinating reading (and photos!) in the printed notes, check out the CD performed by Marco Beasle

new list for historical citterns

2005-03-01 Thread doc rossi
Dear Vihuela List, I want to invite those of you who might be interested to join a new list for discussing historical citterns and their music. This will not be a forum for discussing Celtic music and the modern mando-family of instruments used to play it (commonly known as CBOMs), but rather a

Tarantella for r-guitar or b-guitar?

2005-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear "flat-back-lutenists", do I get it right? This list is meant for vihuela players, renaissance guitar players, baroque guitar players, and such? So, to the "flat-back-lutenists"? ;-) If I am right in that, I would like to start a discussion and gather a list of all the "Tarantella", or suc

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 3/1/2005 11:20:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I have 4 Chambuire copies. Phil Rukavina & I perform all the Valderrabano duets, and just this afternoon I am rehearsing with 4 players, reading through some constructed quartets for vihuelas in F, G,

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread KennethBeLute
Thomas: If you can find the recording "O Dolce Vita" of Tragicomedia with the King's Singers you can hear the vihuela used very effectively and audibly in the ensemble setting in the hands of Stephen Stubbs. Kenneth -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Thomas Schall
It all depends on the instrument and how you are playing it. My Vihuela is quite loud (I own a very speculative model). I think the instrument works well in ensembles and - just guessing: if there is an instrument which was used to accompany singing there should also be other music - I cannot b

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without > this >>> nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be >>> responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex > our >>> egotsistic muscles. >>> >>> So, fellow subscribers, do you w

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Alexander Batov
- Original Message - From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'vihuela'" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: MO > wrote: > > > Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this > > nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't wan

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Edward Martin
Yes, I have 4 Chambuire copies. Phil Rukavina & I perform all the Valderrabano duets, and just this afternoon I am rehearsing with 4 players, reading through some constructed quartets for vihuelas in F, G, Bb, and C. We are rehearsing the 6 pavans of Milan, and they are _not_ quiet. ed At

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
> Perhaps he plays the theorbo too softly; a not uncommon > fault No he doesn't! Anyway. Lourdes Uncilla-Moreno seems to have a reputation for building powerful instruments. But of course Eugene is right, we can't know exactly how powerful the vihuelas where. Have anyone hear

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:30 AM 3/1/2005, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote: >I have of course heard both his theorbo and his vihuela live on several >occasions, and I can guarantee you all that his vihuela is louder. You >will probably hear from the recording that his vihuela has a tremendous >attack, which makes it penetr

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Perhaps he plays the theorbo too softly; a not uncommon fault Are Vidar Boye Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have of course heard both his theorbo and his vihuela live on several occasions, and I can guarantee you all that his vihuela is louder. You will probably hear

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Perhaps he plays the theorbo too softly; a not uncommon fault Are Vidar Boye Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have of course heard both his theorbo and his vihuela live on several occasions, and I can guarantee you all that his vihuela is louder. You will probably hear

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." > > Since the vihuela is used in modern ensembles all the time, you must be > speculating about how the vihuela was used in the Renaissance. I've also heard Lislevand with Hesperion. Rolf was inaudible to the 4th row. RT -- http://polyhymnion.o

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
> I have of course heard both his theorbo and his vihuela live on several > occasions, and I can guarantee you all that his vihuela is louder. You I trust your opinion, but > will probably hear from the recording that his vihuela has a tremendous > attack, which makes it penetrate easily throu

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Howard Posner
Roman Turovsky wrote: >> "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." Since the vihuela is used in modern ensembles all the time, you must be speculating about how the vihuela was used in the Renaissance. Is there some reason to believe it was any softer than the lute, which was used in ensem

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
I have of course heard both his theorbo and his vihuela live on several occasions, and I can guarantee you all that his vihuela is louder. You will probably hear from the recording that his vihuela has a tremendous attack, which makes it penetrate easily through large ensembles. mvh Are > Nice,

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
Nice, but there was no theorbo for comparison, not to mention that this is a recording, which is not a good measurement tool of instrumental volume. RT http://polyhymnion.org >>> "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." >>> >>> What are the known historic parameters of th

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Howard Posner
wrote: > Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this > nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be > responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our > egotsistic muscles. > > So, fellow subscribers, do you want thi

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
> > RT wrote: > > > > "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." > > > > What are the known historic parameters of the vihuela that determine that it > > MUST be soft? > > > > David Cameron > So far the vihuela industry has not produced a loud variety. So the > situations remains as it is, un

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
> RT wrote: > > "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." > > What are the known historic parameters of the vihuela that determine that it > MUST be soft? > David Cameron I would suspect its historic parameters to be similar to clavichord's. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/adc ___

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
> RT wrote: > > "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." > > What are the known historic parameters of the vihuela that determine that it > MUST be soft? > > David Cameron So far the vihuela industry has not produced a loud variety. So the situations remains as it is, until this happens.

Re: Ensemble music with Vihuela

2005-03-01 Thread David Cameron
RT wrote: "Vihuela is too soft to be used in ensembles..." What are the known historic parameters of the vihuela that determine that it MUST be soft? David Cameron To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-01 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Sal Salvaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:31 pm Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > Robert Strizitch (sp) did a book of transcribed > DeVisee back in the 1970's. My recollection- been > about 5 years since I've seen the

RE: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Sal Salvaggio
Rob Keep the list going! I find the exchanges rather stimulating. One can always skip over subjects that one wants to ignore. Which reminds me, I've got to empty the old recycle bin. SS __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on y

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread KennethBeLute
To the list: Please remember, too, that there are many like me who are silent readers most of the time who, late at night at the end of a long busy day at work, relish the chance to read others' opinions on the often arcane but relevant points and issues on matters of instruments, stringing, re

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
> These temper tantrums crop up from time to time. > > Actually I often sign 0ff from lists temporarily if I am busy or on holiday > and then sign 0n again with out comment. Not to mention that Wayne's robot drops people from time to time during various network troubles. RT -- http://polyhymnion.

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Monica Hall
Dear Rob I am sure we all really want this list and are very grateful to you for setting it up. Please don't get depressed! These temper tantrums crop up from time to time. Actually I often sign off from lists temporarily if I am busy or on holiday and then sign on again with out comment. The

Re: Moderation and Sharing.

2005-03-01 Thread Monica Hall
The Editio Violae edition is preferable because it includes a facsimile of the original. Monica - Original Message - From: Garry Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Monica Hall' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 'vihuela' Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: RE: Moderation and Sharing. >

Re: MO

2005-03-01 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
>Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this >nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. > I guess you are not in the position to do that? It's our list. >I don't want to be >responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our >eg