On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 07:40, Marty Fried wrote:
> One thing to keep in mind is that the ASCII codes were not really meant to
> be something that the user typed in, they were *control codes* for
> controlling printing and display. But some of them were used by users
> sometimes, and most users k
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On 12/16/2011 09:35 PM, Marty Fried wrote:
>
> I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
>> character, so it was chosen for back. Ctrl-J is the linefeed character,
>> so it was chosen for down. Both of those mat
On 12/16/2011 09:35 PM, Marty Fried wrote:
I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
character, so it was chosen for back. Ctrl-J is the linefeed character,
so it was chosen for down. Both of those match each other. The other
two just happen to be nearby, so they we
On 12/16/2011 05:57 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 16/12/11 13:42, "Sven Guckes" wrote:
"you will be assimilated. resistance is futile." hehe
I just commit the ultimate heresy& use the arrow keys. Lead him away ;-)
I'll have to join you in the heretics prison. Not being a touch typist,
I've
Al 16/12/11 14:34, En/na rameo ha escrit:
> I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
> chosen the "h j k l" keys for left, down, up and right and not the "j
> k l ;" keys?
I don't know the historycal reasons, but I can imagine the actual
> Maybe I should argue that, 30 years or so ago, Vi should have used jklm
instead of hjkl —
> but I won't. At least the tails of j and k point in different directions.
Good luck with your arguing. :)
I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
character, so it was chosen
On 16/12/11 14:34, rameo wrote:
[...]
I checked other national keyboards, they are almost all the same as
the US keyboard.
[...]
Almost… but not exactly, even if we don't count Dvorak keyboards, which
are vastly different.
English-language keyboards are QWERTY, French-language keyboards are
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 15:34, rameo wrote:
> I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
> chosen the "h j k l" keys for left, down, up and right and not the "j
> k l ;" keys?
>
> I type with ten fingers and with touch typing, the ri
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote:
>
> On 2011-12-16T13:26:22, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
> >Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
> >> "because". this happened long before vim -
> >> when it has been "vi". so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
> >
> >If I remember correctly, Bill J
On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
> Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
>> "because". this happened long before vim -
>> when it has been "vi". so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
>
> If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
> H, J, K, and L key
On 2011-12-16T13:26:22, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
>Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
>> "because". this happened long before vim -
>> when it has been "vi". so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
>
>If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
>H, J, K, and L keys had arro
On 16/12/11 13:42, "Sven Guckes" wrote:
> "you will be assimilated. resistance is futile." hehe
I just commit the ultimate heresy & use the arrow keys. Lead him away ;-)
Cheers,
Phil...
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Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
> "because". this happened long before vim -
> when it has been "vi". so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
H, J, K, and L keys had arrows painted on them, hence the choice of
movement com
* rameo [2011-12-16 14:35]:
> I just want to know why Vim developers (and other
> software) have chosen the "h j k l" keys for left,
> down, up and right and not the "j k l ;" keys?
"because". this happened long before vim -
when it has been
I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
chosen the "h j k l" keys for left, down, up and right and not the "j
k l ;" keys?
I type with ten fingers and with touch typing, the right hand is on
the "j k l ;" keys.
To go to "left" I
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