Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread thomas malloy
Horace Heffner posted; Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor over the I've heard some grand schemes Horace, and this is one of the grandest. Assuming the deployment of this amount of payload can g

Re" a last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread RC Macaulay
Seems that if a compound in the earth's statosphere needed to be removed, the safest method may be by incineration using parapolic shaped mirror reflectors. The reflectors would be adjustable to focus at a specific range.   Richard   <>

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Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Mike Carrell
Robin wrote: > And the real cause of the problem is the greed of those who maintain a monopoly over energy supply, when unlimited sources of clean energy are available in black projects. IOW they continue to flog oil, even though clean alternatives are available, simply because there is no profit

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
At 9:47 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >In fact there is an SF movie that covers a very similar scenario (one of >the Highlander movies?). No kidding! What did they put in orbit and how did they get it there? Regards, Horace Heffner

RE: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread SnowDog
>>>Just increase the stack height of the Chenney-Bush Coal-Burning (Hydrogen Generating) power plants, and remove the scrubbers so that the "Fly Ash" vents into the stratosphere. Such ash was originally thought to be the cause of global-cooling, in the 1970s. Craig (Houston)

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
A Simple Solution:   Just increase the stack height of the Chenney-Bush Coal-Burning (Hydrogen Generating) power plants, and remove the scrubbers so that the "Fly Ash" vents into the stratosphere.   Frederick  

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:28:33 -0900: Hi Horace, [snip] >At 9:00 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >>In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500: >>Hi, >>> >>>This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people, >>

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
At 9:00 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500: >Hi, >> >>This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people, >>i.e., the people on this list, can launch off into something with >>potentially disastrous result

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500: Hi, > >This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people, >i.e., the people on this list, can launch off into something with >potentially disastrous results. What if the people on this list had Agreed. [s

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Michael Foster
This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people, i.e., the people on this list, can launch off into something with potentially disastrous results. What if the people on this list had actual political power? What if they could implement this project on a global scale, all wit

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
Glad to see some good ideas flowing on vortex on this thread. A good means of dispersal might be the use of a laser or plasma torch to disperse in atomic form. This atomic form might achieve a much better initial coverage than nanoparticles, but would probably eventually aggregate into nanopartic

RE: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Keith Nagel
Harry, That is James Lovelocks gender assignation; I have a hard time thinking of a planet as having a penis or a vagina. OTOH, I've never seen a man give birth to something, so it's maybe more analogous to a woman than a man. Many fathers are absent, and the earth remains beneath our feet. Henc

Re: Nature/ creation is inherently masculine

2005-02-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BlankWhy so you say? Because everything in nature > has its stinger out !! > > Richard Not to mention that this year (starts Feb 12) is the Chinese year of the Cock...

RE: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread John Steck
If the payload is not sensitive to G-forces why not just rail gun pellets up to the necessary altitude and disperse with a shaped charge? Low cost, known technology. Space fireworks... Such a system could allow non-permanent low orbit clouds of which the density could be cost effectively repleni

RE: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread John Steck
Not that inhaling it is all that good of an idea, but you get more aluminum oxide exposure from your underarm anti-perspirant... yeah, just try and find one that doesn't have it. Nice catch 22 eh? What's the point in being mentally 100% if you are too stinky to be around... ha ha -john -Ori

Nature/ creation is inherently masculine

2005-02-05 Thread RC Macaulay
Why so you say? Because everything in nature has its stinger out !!   Richard   <>

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Getting the powder into position won't be cheap with rockets. > If we have the luxury of some time, loading the tops of the > big volcanos with powder might be a cheap way to blast great > wads of the stuff into space, assuming we get lucky and the > ole g

RE: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Horace, Given that powdered metals in general make good catalysts for chemical reactions, I'm not sure they are appropriate for this application. Wouldn't something inert and light ( Boron perhaps ) be better? OTOH, if you could tailor the catalyzed reactions to clean and repair the upper atmo

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Jones Beene
I wrote (before following "leads" from Terry's reference) > Another possiblility, assuming that space robotics is > perfected for use with Hubble etc. Had I looked further on this authoritative site I would have found http://www.flatwoodsmonster.com/ and realized that the "authorities" have

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Horace Heffner wrote: > Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor [snip] The total deployed mass is thus 166,000 metric tons. The price is about 1.7 trillion dollars. INTERESTING... and a barga

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
At 6:57 AM 2/5/5, Terry Blanton wrote: >--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The objective might be met by dispersing orbiting >> aluminum nanopowder > >Some believe this is already underway though at lower >altitudes: > >http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1108 This is horrific

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Terry Blanton
--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The objective might be met by dispersing orbiting > aluminum nanopowder Some believe this is already underway though at lower altitudes: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1108 __ Do You Yahoo

Re: Self-Healing Electron Beam Penetration Wall?

2005-02-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
In line with the possibility of CF-type reactions with 250 kilovolt at 100 microamp deuteron beams (25 watts) referred to in the lenr-canr files:   http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KimYEpossibleeva.pdf   Electron Beam Welding (EBW) machines can produce 30 Kilowatts or more with 150 kilovolt electron

Re: A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor over the EM band around 10^-6 m, from latitudes 50 to -50, can stop or reverse the warming, then the following is suggested as a rough first estimate of how t

A last resort attack on global warming

2005-02-05 Thread Horace Heffner
Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor over the EM band around 10^-6 m, from latitudes 50 to -50, then the following is suggested as a rough first estimate of how this might be done. The objectiv