[Vo]:Ball Lightning Freedom of Information Act Request

2013-09-13 Thread James Bowery
http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/4384359/ball-lightning-study-air-force-freedom-of-information-act In particular I direct your attention to Figure 7.

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
Eric, Perhaps the following recent posting, and its comments is of interest - What’s the Google-Brillouin Connection? http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/09/whats-the-google-brillouin-connection/ Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:46 AM, wrote: > > I'm perplexed that Google wouldn't pr

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:46 AM, wrote: I'm perplexed that Google wouldn't provide funding after observing some > of the experiments. > I didn't hear anything about Google's decision after the neutron measurements -- perhaps they did go ahead with funding after all? I think it's pretty cool th

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread Eric Walker
My apologies -- I should have clarified that some of the authors look like researchers that have a history of participation in research related to LENR. I guess that is relevant because it means that the article could just as well have been published in JCMNS (although the article also made it thr

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread H Veeder
the wiki page on lightning says the temperature of lightning (about 50 000 K) is too low for existing theory to explain the production of x-rays. Harry On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Eric, > > ** ** > > Since a typical lightning strike is a gigavolt in potential …

RE: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread Jones Beene
Eric, Since a typical lightning strike is a gigavolt in potential … with 10 to 20 kilo-amps of current what is the reason to invoke LENR to explain neutrons? These input parameters are more energetic than a tokomak. In fact, this abstract indicates that fast neutrons are detected over 10

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread James Bowery
A current problem in plasma physics is that observed reconnection happens much faster than predicted by MHD in high Lundquist number plasmas: solar flares, for example, proceed 13-14 orders of magnitude faster th

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread Eric Walker
It's pretty cool that these authors have gotten a LENR-ish paper into Physical Review Letters in 2013. I suspect this paper should be understood to be in the line of LENR papers, proper, rather than that of an outside group looking at something akin to LENR. At least two of the authors, for examp

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > Its not like Jed to miss something like that. I sense a Disturbance in > The Force. > Okay, I admit, I wasn't paying close attention to the video. I find it irritating. I am updating all of the ICCF3 Abstracts, which is tedious. Another reason I am irritated. I just fini

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
Jed, Google apparently did not archive it, but I recall reading a posting by Godes to "Goat Guy" who was a caustic skeptic on an eet blog (I think.) Godes realized that Goat Guy lived nearby and offered to let him inspect his lab and test procedures. Goat Guy did not respond. Now that Brillouin

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
Axil is correct. If Brillouin and W-L are correct, the e+p-->n conversion taps 782 KeV electromagnetic field energy. Temperature does not decrease. Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > This is standard W&L theory. 700K electron volts are needed to make > neutron >> production from electro

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread James Bowery
Its not like Jed to miss something like that. I sense a Disturbance in The Force. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:10 PM, wrote: > Axil is correct. > > If Brillouin and W-L are correct, the e+p-->n conversion taps 782 KeV > electromagnetic field energy. Temperature does not decrease. > > Jed Rothwel

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Axil Axil
This is standard W&L theory. 700K electron volts are needed to make neutron production from electrons and protons energetically possible. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The other thing that bothers me is their claim that the device converts > energy into mass. "A kind of

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: This is standard W&L theory. 700K electron volts are needed to make neutron > production from electrons and protons energetically possible. > I know. I guess the total output is continuously exothermic. But at one point in the video it sounds like they are predicting an overall

Re: [Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms...

2013-09-13 Thread P.J van Noorden
Meshuganon will probably turn out to be hydrino/deuterino Peter - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms... Alain Sepeda wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Axil Axil
http://coldfusionnow.org/brillouin-energy-patent-granted-in-china/ *Essentially, it is a tube containing the catalytic material with the metal nickel that allows for control over the flow of hydrogen gas as well the Q-pulses, the electromagnetic pulses that start and drive the reaction. * This s

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: Does anyone else see that the explanation given by Godes is pure word salad > having no relationship to reality. The description is in direct and basic > conflict with what is known and accepted in science. I do not know enough about theory to judge that. Here is what I do

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
The other thing that bothers me is their claim that the device converts energy into mass. "A kind of nuclear refrigerator" they say. That would be an endothermic reaction. As far as I know, no one has observed significant endothermic reactions except for chemical reactions in the initial loading of

[Vo]:3D truss structure with 75nm struts

2013-09-13 Thread James Bowery
If precise dimensions are required in 3D for optimal resonance structures and gas permeability advances in this tech may play a role. http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/09/caltech-engineers-focus-on-nano-to.html *Three-dimensional, hollow titanium nitride nanotruss with tessellated octahedral geometry

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Does anyone else see that the explanation given by Godes is pure word salad having no relationship to reality. The description is in direct and basic conflict with what is known and accepted in science. I'm flabbergasted that money is being spent and discussion is taking place based on such

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Axil Axil
Keep an open mind, but a closed wallet. Their gas phase system has the potential to conform to Nanoplasmonic principles. However, I do not yet detect a good chance for plasma condensation of the catalyst to nanoparticles. But at least they say that they use a catalyst. The reactor architectur

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
I'm perplexed that Google wouldn't provide funding after observing some of the experiments. Were they either (a) unconvinced, (b) already allied with others, (c) directed not to engage with Brillouin, (d) reluctant for other reason? If I recall correctly, Godes claims the absence of tritium is du

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Brad Lowe
The interview is by Gary with Robert Godes (inventor) and Bob George (business). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXAg_424_2o I'd recommend watching from 0:30 to 0:45... then 1:02- 1:08 Highlights: Brillioun calls their LENR CECR, for Controlled Electron Capture Reaction The theory is described

Re: [Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms...

2013-09-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
2013/9/13 Jed Rothwell > Meshuganon ok, I understand now... it is like X-ray... an hypothesis, to characterize... not like shlock science (which is unconfirmed from IE)... thanks for the correction. so not much to say. most critics seems quite untold, yet they spread like a buzz... no claim o

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
Axil, Good find! Another perplexing result. The full text preprint is available at - "Observation of neutron bursts produced by laboratory high-voltage atmospheric discharge" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.2521.pdf BTW, the discharge tube is only one meter long. Here is the abstract and conclusion:

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Axil Axil
The reason for this interview is that Brillouin needs some money for development of their gas phase reactor. Brillouin is proposing that their reaction is a variant of the Widom-Larsen theory, where a fast electron combines with a proton to become a neutron (reverse beta decay). The Brillion gas

Re: [Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms...

2013-09-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: > I remember that some nasty terms was used agains Fleischmann experiments... > beside Meshuganon used in some conference, > Meshuganon was not an insult at all. Edward Teller used it at at the NSF conference. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EPRInsfepriwor.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms...

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
Alain, The article - MIT and Cold Fusion: A Special Reporthttp://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/mitcfreport.pdf - contains a number of insults. Alain Sepeda wrote: > Hi, > it is a question of the historians of cold fusion. > > I remember that some nasty terms was used agains Fleischmann >

[Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread pagnucco
For those who missed it, yesterday's video interview of Brillouin founders is at: Brillouin Energy Interview on Smart Scarecrow Show http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/09/brillioun-interview-on-smart-scarecrow-show-tonight-live-thread/

[Vo]:Meshuganon, pseudo-scientists and other ridiculing terms...

2013-09-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
Hi, it is a question of the historians of cold fusion. I remember that some nasty terms was used agains Fleischmann experiments... beside Meshuganon used in some conference, there was an insult to say "bad science" somethin like "schienshe" For documentation I would like to find the terms used...