RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Greg, >I'm working on a simple to build / replicate single >ramp, ball return system and expect to post a video in >the next week or so. Keep us posted. I expect that last inch will be challenging, if you're going under the ramp. Say, with tongue firmly in cheek, might I suggest the moniker S

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-26 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How much energy is required to push the ball back to > the starting position? It's trivial to redirect the > ball, recovering the kinetic energy. That's your > input energy. Pushing the ball under the ramp will > no doubt take some energy. Making the

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Greg, You write: >What I do know is that you can drop the ball >vertically from the entry position, without magnets >and measure the KE delivered in a fall to a level >reference plane, then replace the ball at the entry >point and allow it to do the climb, drop and fall to >the the same entry p

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-26 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please don't take this to mean I think the effect > can't be real. As > always, experiment trumps theory. I'm just pointing > out that if the > effect _is_ real, then it is revolutionary on a far > more fundamental > level than such mun

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: Prometheus Effect wrote: The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and then to cause it to be released (with no significant magnetic dragback) while retaining the PE gained by the lift. Does the height of "lift" vary with the

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does the height of "lift" vary with the particular > planet? Hi Terry, Sure does ;-) Now it's just engineering effort, time and money, Greg Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Prometheus Effect wrote: The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and then to cause it to be released (with no significant magnetic dragback) while retaining the PE gained by the lift. Does the height of "lift" vary with the particular planet?

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I ask again is the PROMETHEUS EFFECT? > I only know that Prometheus showed man how > to use fire. So What is his effect?-ges Hi, The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and t

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I ask again is the PROMETHEUS EFFECT? I only know that Prometheus showed man how to use fire. So What is his effect?-ges

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Prometheus Effect wrote: > > Or is this just another of those "measurement OU" > claims which cannot > self-act to perform continuous work (minutes or > hours long) against > friction? Hi Bill, Please checkout the data on the si

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Mr. Watson (I presume), You have mentioned my name in msg #150 on your forum, please to remove it. I admire your affinity for acronyms, particularly "PEPMM" but your partial disclosure demands a total disclosure if you plan to patent your product here in the GOUSA, IMO, however, IANAL. This is

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Keith Nagel wrote: > He's blaming Vortex in particular for misleading him into > trying to close the loop. Not to worry Greg, the reality based > community has long since vanished. So he HASN'T closed the loop? Forget vortex, he can blame Bill Beaty for misleading him and le

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Keith Nagel
- From: Prometheus Effect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits --- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't you know, I mentioned SMOT a few days ago, > and who should

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Prometheus Effect
Hi Terry, In the message I gave you credit for the stepped magnet arrays used my some SMOT builders but I will remove the message as requested. All the best, Greg Watson Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Keith Nagel
icular for misleading him into trying to close the loop. Not to worry Greg, the reality based community has long since vanished. K. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Prometheus Effect and

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Prometheus Effect wrote: > Hi Randy, > > You need to checkout the site I have created which has > ample proof that the Prometheus Effect, at the heart > of the SMOT device, is OU: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prometheus_effect/ You've finally closed the loop?

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Bill Beaty
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "overunity2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > do the loop at least 5 times in a row until the ball had > so

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the Prometheus effect? From what I have read Prometheus is the Greek god who took fire from the Gods on MT. Olympus and gave it to man-for which he was punished by Zeus.- GES

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Prometheus Effect wrote: Hi Terry, In the message I gave you credit for the stepped magnet arrays used my some SMOT builders but I will remove the message as requested. Yes, thanks for your compliance.

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Yes. Understood. Thanks for complying with my request. Terry Prometheus Effect wrote: Hi Terry, In the message I gave you credit for the stepped magnet arrays used my some SMOT builders but I will remove the message as requested.

RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-22 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Keith Nagel wrote: > > To deal with Nature, we have to match its level of > ruthless honesty. Hi Bill, Agreeded. I have made a full disclosure of the Prometheus Effect. No theory, just hard nose measurements via two different me