Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, As far as it is about me, I can say that I left wikimedia-l twice or three times. I left mainly because of the high amount of mails, also often not very useful mails, witty remarks in 1-2 lines for example. But I think that this is a good example for a quantitative research that should

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread Juergen Fenn
Hello Ziko, Am 05.06.2015 um 09:33 schrieb Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com: But I think that this is a good example for a quantitative research that should later lead you to a qualitative look. And maybe it is indeed an indicator for something. In systems theory, one might think that the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Yes, but may I also point out that one of our biggest problems on EN wiki is that even good faith newbies will often have their edits reverted. If you add uncited facts to a page you are now much more likely to have your edit reverted than to have someone add citation needed so I would suggest

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread Aaron Halfaker
HI Ziko, I agree. That sounds like a TL;DR of my research agenda. :D - It started with http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/ - So I tied to make assessing newcomers easier

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
The number one problem with Wikipedia seems to be the assessment of newbies and the communication with them. We often don't have enough information in order to see whether a contribution was made in good or bad faith. We usually simply revert. If the contribution was made in bad faith, that