Re: [Wikidata] About Functional QuadStore for WikiData (was Are we ready for our future)

2019-05-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Sounds interesting, is there a github repo? On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:19 PM Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boube...@gmail.com> wrote: > GerardM post triggered my interest to post to the mailing list. As you > might know I am working on functional quadstore that is quadstore that > keeps around old

[Wikidata] About Functional QuadStore for WikiData (was Are we ready for our future)

2019-05-03 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
GerardM post triggered my interest to post to the mailing list. As you might know I am working on functional quadstore that is quadstore that keeps around old version of data, like a wiki but in direct-acyclic-graph. It only stores differences between commits. It rely on snapshot of the latest vers

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Marco Neumann
looks like you are ready for the weekend Gerard :-) I don't see a scale issue at the moment for the type of wikidata use cases I come across. Even total number of triples is plateauing at 7.6bn*. ( of course it's easy to write "bad" queries that bring down the server). Allowing people to setup thei

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Lies, damned lies and statistics. The quality of Wikidata suffers, it could be so much better if we truly wanted Wikidata to grow. Your numbers only show growth within the limits of what has been made possible. Traffic and numbers could be much more. Thanks, GerardM On Fri, 3 May 2019

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Marco Neumann
Gerard, I like wikidata a lot, kudos to the community for keeping it going. But keep it real, there is no exponential growth here. We are looking at a slow and sustainable growth at the moment with possibly a plateauing of number of users and when it comes to total number of wikidata items. just t

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Darren Cook
> Wikidata grows like mad. This is something we all experience in the really > bad > response times we are suffering. It is so bad that people are asked what kind > of > updates they are running because it makes a difference in the lag times there > are. > > Given that Wikidata is growing lik

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This mail thread is NOT about the issues that I or others face at this time. They are serious enough but that is not for this thread. People are working hard to find a solution for now. That is cool. What I want to know is are we technically and financially ready for a continued exponential

Re: [Wikidata] [External] Re: Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Young,Jeff (OR)
I imagine the federation of Wikibase instances becoming part of the solution: https://addshore.com/2018/04/wikibase-of-wikibases/ Along those lines, I wonder if there is potential for Wikibase as a component in the W3C Solid project’s effort: https://www.w3.org/community/solid/wiki/Main_Page J

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Thad Guidry
Gerard mentioned the PROBLEM in the 2nd sentence. I read it clearly >we all experience in the really bad response times we are suffering. It is so bad that people are asked what kind of updates they are running because it makes a difference in the lag times there are. The response times are

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Andra Waagmeester
I agree it is not clear what is being discussed here. It is growing, but in (my opinion) in a positive way, i.e. being accepted as a viable knowledge graph. Regards, Andra On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:27 PM David Abián wrote: > Hi! > > Indeed, Wikidata grows and will continue growing. But I don't

Re: [Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread David Abián
Hi! Indeed, Wikidata grows and will continue growing. But I don't see clearly what the purpose of this thread is. Is it to propose possible technical and financial improvements? Regards, David On 5/3/19 14:24, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Wikidata grows like mad. This is something we all exp

[Wikidata] Are we ready for our future

2019-05-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikidata grows like mad. This is something we all experience in the really bad response times we are suffering. It is so bad that people are asked what kind of updates they are running because it makes a difference in the lag times there are. Given that Wikidata is growing like a weed, it fol