Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 18/03/13 22:57, Katie Chan wrote: On 18/03/2013 22:47, Gordon Joly wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Wikimedia UK is supporting the bid, offering advice and support where it can. The actual bid itself is led by volunteers Ed, James, Kimi,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 18/03/13 23:15, Michael Peel wrote: The thing I'm personally worried about is that not enough WMUK volunteers are engaging with the bid. So if you're reading this and you're not already involved in the bid, then please involve yourself! The bid mentions the 70,000 volunteers (Games Makers)

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Keating
Will Wikimedia UK be company doing the business (hiring, contracts, publicity, registration, etc), or will a new company be formed for the purpose? We are looking at these kinds of details at the moment and haven't reached a firm decision, but I think we're tending towards the former. (For

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 18 March 2013 23:16, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 March 2013 23:10, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: In this case, the bid isn't being submitted by volunteers and members of Wikimedia UK as part of Wikimedia UK. The bid is funded by WMUK, the bid team are operating

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread James Farrar
Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. On 19 March 2013 08:26, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 18 March 2013 23:16, Thomas

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:18, Chris Keating wrote: Will Wikimedia UK be company doing the business (hiring, contracts, publicity, registration, etc), or will a new company be formed for the purpose? We are looking at these kinds of details at the moment and haven't reached a firm decision,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:40, James Farrar wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. Very high quality. And that may be an issue the Barbican,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. On 19 March 2013 08:26, Charles Matthews

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:44, Gordon Joly wrote: On 19/03/13 08:40, James Farrar wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. Very high quality. And that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Jon Davies
Some interesting comments here! First of all the idea of WMUK supporting the bid has been chewed over by the board for many months. In the end they agreed to support the bid. Wikimania bids have not come from chapters traditionally but from volunteers in the local community. The support of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Anyone interested in Lua and PIzza one day?

2013-03-19 Thread Tom Morris
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: A good response here so I think it is worth doing - if only for the pizzas. There are two people keen on it who will be trapped in the board meeting on the 11th of May so that is probably not ideal. I am going to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. They don't. This thread is mostly

[Wikimediauk-l] WMUK Volunteers + WIkimania 2014

2013-03-19 Thread fabian
I feel we have a very real need for the phrase WMUK volunteer. Firstly, as i have mentioned before, I am not sure that the term volunteer is the best generic term for WM editors - I feel amateur bet captures the relationship, although indeed often people volunteer for specific tasks. With WMUK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK Volunteers + WIkimania 2014

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Morton
My own view on Wikimania 2014 is that it should be set up as a separate company, with WMUK as a corporate member on the board. Thought needs to go into what is the best form for it: e.g. Community Interest Company might be the most appropriate. This relates to how it is going to be funded.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 March 2013 09:52, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 09:59, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:52, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being

[Wikimediauk-l] Converting PDF to DJVU - help please!

2013-03-19 Thread Stevie Benton
Hello everyone, I wonder if there's anyone able to help me please. I'm trying to convert a .pdf file to a .djvu file but my converter hates me and doesn't work. I wonder if there's anyone on this list who might be able to convert a file for me please? Any help gratefully received! Stevie --

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Converting PDF to DJVU - help please!

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
If anyone in the office has an Ubuntu box, pdf2djvu is just what it says it is ... or email me and I'll run it through it for you. - d. On 19 March 2013 12:05, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if there's anyone able to help me please. I'm trying to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 March 2013 09:41, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: A subsidiary company? That would be my suggestion. It isolates the charity's main funds from the risks of the event (which will have a budget roughly equal to the annual budget of the rest of the charity, so the risks are pretty

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Converting PDF to DJVU - help please!

2013-03-19 Thread Stevie Benton
Many thanks to David for his help, this is now sorted :) Stevie On 19 March 2013 12:11, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone in the office has an Ubuntu box, pdf2djvu is just what it says it is ... or email me and I'll run it through it for you. - d. On 19 March 2013 12:05,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Richard Symonds
It's a complex set of affairs - but this is something that we'll have to discuss in part with the WMF's financial and legal teams, once the UK team win the bid. We're still in the first stages at the moment. Rest assured that we will be taking professional advice - but that any other opinions or

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK Volunteers + WIkimania 2014

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 March 2013 10:55, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: CIC might be easy. Quicker than forming a charity, eh? There's no need for the subsidiary to be a charity. WMUK can act as an intermediary and all the tax advantages can come from WMUK's status. Donations are made to WMUK, which

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 March 2013 15:42, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: [putting WM2013 hat on] Wikimedia Hong Kong thought about setting up a subsidiary company for Wikimania 2013 but decided against it. This is because the subsidiary company (and therefore Wikimania) will not enjoy charity benefits,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 12:52, Richard Symonds wrote: It's a complex set of affairs - but this is something that we'll have to discuss in part with the WMF's financial and legal teams, once the UK team win the bid. We're still in the first stages at the moment. Rest assured that we will be taking