Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Michael Peel
On 31 Mar 2014, at 14:46, John Byrne wrote: > I agree with others that when a scholarship/grant is made involving > non-trivial travel and living expenses such as air fares and hotels, the > recipients should be identified, if only by username. Exceptions to this > should be made very sparing

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Harry Burt
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:46 PM, John Byrne wrote: > I agree with others that when a scholarship/grant is made involving > non-trivial travel and living expenses such as air fares and hotels, the > recipients should be identified, if only by username. Exceptions to this > should be made very spar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread John Byrne
I agree with others that when a scholarship/grant is made involving non-trivial travel and living expenses such as air fares and hotels, the recipients should be identified, if only by username. Exceptions to this should be made very sparingly, and for very good reasons. If individuals attendi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread HJ Mitchell
I don't think anybody is suggesting you link somebody's real-life identity to their Wikimedia username against their wishes (unless there's context that I've missed). I'm suggesting you should publish whatever information the recipient is comfortable with, unless they're not comfortable with any

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Jon Davies
1 Many Wikimedians want to keep their userid and real name separate - even when attending events. 2 The way to encourage applicants to be open about this is not to then criticise those who get scholarships. Instead make sure we have the right people on a scholarship committee. There are many chec

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread
What I said was "Secret scholarships. How bizarre, this is the opposite of transparency and would be an especially difficult thing to justify if it later came out that relatives, friends, people with no previous connection to Wikimedia projects were getting large sums of money with no public declar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Michael Maggs
Fae, this is a standard defence that you run often. Let me say that you do not do yourself any favours when you make a statement accusing the chapter of some outrageous or corrupt act, and then deny responsibility for the intent of your posting by pointing out that you had phrased it in the co

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread
"would be" - i.e. hypothetical scenario. Not everything I write needs to be read as an accusation of a crime, no. Fae On 31 March 2014 13:13, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Fae, > > I'll assume you didn't mean that to sound like an allegation of corruption, > but regardless, it's not really helpful. The

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread HJ Mitchell
Fae, I'll assume you didn't mean that to sound like an allegation of corruption, but regardless, it's not really helpful. The idea of a discussion is that you let the other person answer before making a point that's already been made. Thanks,    Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 0

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread
Secret scholarships. How bizarre, this is the opposite of transparency and would be an especially difficult thing to justify if it later came out that relatives, friends, people with no previous connection to Wikimedia projects were getting large sums of money with no public declarations. Fae On

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread HJ Mitchell
I tend to agree with Mike, but not entirely. I'd say you should ask scholarship recipients if they object to their name being published. If they do (for any reason or no reason whatsoever), obviously you shouldn't publish their name; if they don't, you should publish it. Transparency is one of W

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Katie Chan
Scholarships recipients are encouraged to openly participate prior, during, and after their attendance to a conference, but they may well have legitimate reasons why they may not want their receiving of scholarship or attendance to be known publicly in advance or at all. We have not and do not seek

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Michael Peel
Erm, no, it is standard (good) practice! Mike > On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:28, Jon Davies wrote: > > It is not standard practice for a list of attendees to Wikimedia conferences > to be published. It is up to the individuals in question whether they want it > be known publicly that they are attend

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-31 Thread Jon Davies
It is not standard practice for a list of attendees to Wikimedia conferences to be published. It is up to the individuals in question whether they want it be known publicly that they are attending or have attended a particular Wikimedia conference. That any particular individual attendance are fund

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-27 Thread
On 27 March 2014 14:50, Katie Chan wrote: > There were two valid applications, which we are both funding. Where is the list going to be published? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-27 Thread Katie Chan
There were two valid applications, which we are both funding. Regards, Katie On 26 March 2014 16:22, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 13 March 2014 14:08, Katie Chan wrote: > > A remainder that deadline for this is this Sunday. Don't > > forget to apply if you haven't already! > > What was the upta

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 March 2014 14:08, Katie Chan wrote: > A remainder that deadline for this is this Sunday. Don't > forget to apply if you haven't already! What was the uptake like? Annoyingly, I didn't think I'd be free, but now find that I am. *kicks self* -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthew

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/03/14 14:08, Katie Chan wrote: > A remainder that deadline for this is this Sunday. Don't forget to apply if > you haven't already Who cares about deadlines? And I have had two remainders already! :-) Gordon ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-03-13 Thread Katie Chan
A remainder that deadline for this is this Sunday. Don't forget to apply if you haven't already! Katie On 26 February 2014 18:45, Katie Chan wrote: > Hi all, > > Wikimedia UK will be offering two to three > scholarshipsto > t

[Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

2014-02-26 Thread Katie Chan
Hi all, Wikimedia UK will be offering two to three scholarshipsto the international Wikimedia Hackathon in Zürichthis year. Application will be taken through the registrati