On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:48:34 +
Darragh Bailey fe...@compsoc.nuigalway.ie wrote:
Warcraft III and Frozen Throne expansion was released to support Windows
98/ME/2k/XP. Nowhere in it's patch notes does it say that the minimum
requirements to run Warcraft 3 have changed to have the minimum
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:56:50PM +1100, Ben Klein wrote:
2009/1/22 Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Ben Klein wrote:
[...]
Perhaps the question remains, is a VC7 runtime library intended to be
developed and shipped with Wine? I don't think this is the case.
We have
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 06:34:14PM +0100, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
[...]
What about apps that fail to include a necessary third-party library?
If I understand the AppDB comments and followed the IRC discussion
correctly, Warcraft 3's latest patch
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:09:52PM +0100, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
[...]
If you don't need to manually install the third-party library on a stock
installation of the application's officially supported Windows platform
(e.g. Wow on Windows
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Ben Klein wrote:
[...]
Perhaps the question remains, is a VC7 runtime library intended to be
developed and shipped with Wine? I don't think this is the case.
We have msvcirt, msvcrt, msvcrt20, msvcrt40, msvcr71 so I would not be
so sure. Which dlls are we talking about
2009/1/22 Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Ben Klein wrote:
[...]
Perhaps the question remains, is a VC7 runtime library intended to be
developed and shipped with Wine? I don't think this is the case.
We have msvcirt, msvcrt, msvcrt20, msvcrt40, msvcr71 so I would not be
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:39:25PM +1100, Ben Klein wrote:
2009/1/20 joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com:
Similarly, AppDB might prevent Gold or Silver ratings depending on
qualitative aspects of the steps needed to make an app work:
- need for known distributable third party libraries (e.g.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
[...]
What about apps that fail to include a necessary third-party library?
If I understand the AppDB comments and followed the IRC discussion
correctly, Warcraft 3's latest patch (1.22) was built with a newer
Visual Studio and so requires new
2009/1/20 joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com:
Hi,
here are, from an obvious user perspective, my 0.02$ on the issue.
- Platinum: app works out of the box -- without changing any
settings -- *and* as well as on MS-Windows. That means no feature is
missing: music plays, graphics look similar
Forgive me for bringing this up again, but could this be another
argument for some kind of WineTricks-like Wine application launcher
that would exist as a separate project to Wine, but would apply patches,
particular settings, c in order to get particular applications to work
better with the
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com wrote:
argument for some kind of WineTricks-like Wine application launcher
that would exist as a separate project to Wine, but would apply patches,
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely farfetched idea when no
one outside
2009/1/7 Sparr spa...@gmail.com:
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely farfetched idea when no
one outside Cedega has ever tackled the far simpler tasks involved
with making a wine launcher.
This statement is very untrue.
http://wiki.winehq.org/ThirdPartyApplications
Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com wrote:
argument for some kind of WineTricks-like Wine application launcher
that would exist as a separate project to Wine, but would apply patches,
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely
Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com wrote:
argument for some kind of WineTricks-like Wine application launcher
that would exist as a separate project to Wine, but would apply patches,
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me for bringing this up again, but could this be another
argument for some kind of WineTricks-like Wine application launcher
that would exist as a separate project to Wine, but would apply patches,
particular
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Zachary Goldberg zg...@bluesata.com wrote:
2009/1/7 Sparr spa...@gmail.com:
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely farfetched idea when no
one outside Cedega has ever tackled the far simpler tasks involved
with making a wine launcher.
This statement is
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Zachary Goldberg zg...@bluesata.com wrote:
2009/1/7 Sparr spa...@gmail.com:
Re-compiling wine with patches is an extremely farfetched idea when no
one outside Cedega has ever tackled the far simpler
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:46:06 -0500
Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote:
I have not investigated the state of wine launchers in about a year
now. Do any of those handle multiple WINEPREFIXes? That is the most
important feature of Cedega's launcher that I was never able to find
in a wine launcher.
Now, the story changes if the patch is conforming and has been accepted
by AJ and is pending the next development release.
Then the next development release can get the gold, but previous ones still
shouldn't. AppDB test ratings are tied to specific releases, and intended to
tell normal
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Rosanne DiMesio dime...@earthlink.net wrote:
Now, the story changes if the patch is conforming and has been accepted
by AJ and is pending the next development release.
Then the next development release can get the gold, but previous ones still
shouldn't.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Nathaniel Gray n8g...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Rosanne DiMesio dime...@earthlink.net wrote:
Now, the story changes if the patch is conforming and has been accepted
by AJ and is pending the next development release.
Then the next
It sounds like the problem is that the version string in appdb isn't
descriptive enough. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if a given
program can be made to work with a patched version of wine, and wonder
how well it will work. It's also reasonable to wonder how it will
work with a
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Rosanne DiMesio dime...@earthlink.net wrote:
Now, the story changes if the patch is conforming and has been accepted
by AJ and is pending the next development release.
Then the next development release can get the gold, but previous ones still
shouldn't.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Rosanne DiMesio dime...@earthlink.net wrote:
It sounds like the problem is that the version string in appdb isn't
descriptive enough. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if a given
program can be made to work with a patched version of wine, and wonder
how
Sometimes to make an app work, you need to copy over
some native dlls.
To get these dlls don't you need to own a copy of windows?
Could this be a criterion in the rating system?
Wether or not you need to own a copy of windows?
nick
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Nathaniel Gray n8g...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like the problem is that the version string in appdb isn't
descriptive enough. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if a given
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
No, the appdb should not be touched. Rosanne said it correctly, ordinary
users are NOT going to take the time to build Wine, nor should they. We can
put in the bug report that the patch works and whether or
Björn Krombholz wrote:
Hi,
I started a discussion inside AppDB about the in my eyes strange
Gold rating of Fallout 3 (it's actually just an example, other entries
suffer the same problems). I know there was a discussion about the
rating on this list last month, but as far as I could see my
2009/1/6 Björn Krombholz fox@gmail.com:
Hi,
I started a discussion inside AppDB about the in my eyes strange
Gold rating of Fallout 3
--snip--
The basic point is: Fallout 3 (a game) only works with a small -- but
nevertheless -- patch, otherwise it will crash, no matter what
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Jeff Zaroyko jeffzaro...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/1/6 Björn Krombholz fox@gmail.com:
Gold means [...] you've modified Wine to make it work, ie
there is a work around that makes the application work flawlessly.
There's no reason to exclude modifying Wine, you
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