Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-18 Thread tee
On Aug 6, 2010, at 6:59 PM, David Storey wrote: > > On 7 Aug 2010, at 00:44, tee wrote: > >> >> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:23 PM, David Storey wrote: >>> >>> Not strictly true. First of all Opera Mini compresses the content and >>> images (which is one of the reasons for the image quality setting

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-10 Thread David Laakso
Duncan Hill wrote: On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:51:17 +0100, David Laakso wrote: Hmm. Doubt it is Opera Mini. SanyoMiro okay this end. N80 cache issue? AP from sidebar [digits] and/or header "metroedition" display:none; not holding? I will check it out. Thanks for the "heads-up." Best, ~d I'v

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-06 Thread David Storey
On 7 Aug 2010, at 00:44, tee wrote: On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:23 PM, David Storey wrote: Not strictly true. First of all Opera Mini compresses the content and images (which is one of the reasons for the image quality setting - it will compress it less on high setting) to optimise it for low

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-06 Thread tee
On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:23 PM, David Storey wrote: > > Not strictly true. First of all Opera Mini compresses the content and images > (which is one of the reasons for the image quality setting - it will compress > it less on high setting) to optimise it for low bandwidth devices. Opera (in > gen

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-06 Thread Duncan Hill
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:50:57 +0100, David Laakso wrote: I misunderstood, Duncan. Now I see what you mean... On this end the scroll is only seen on the 7 portfolio pages. All the portfolio images are 10px left-aligned and approx 160px wide [35%] and fit within the window. However, I can s

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-06 Thread David Laakso
Duncan Hill wrote: I've reset Opera Mini on the N80. Default image quality appears to be 'Medium', which results in a small width image but with no side-scroll for the page. Is max-width 35% correct for the image on the 480px screen ?? Duncan I misunderstood, Duncan. Now I see what y

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-06 Thread Duncan Hill
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:51:17 +0100, David Laakso wrote: Hmm. Doubt it is Opera Mini. SanyoMiro okay this end. N80 cache issue? AP from sidebar [digits] and/or header "metroedition" display:none; not holding? I will check it out. Thanks for the "heads-up." Best, ~d I've reset Opera Mini

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
tee wrote: Checked one of a mobile sites I did that has inline image larger than 480px ...trimmed, thanks [I think :-) ]. Oh, easy for Leonardo. -- Dylan Thomas -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: h

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
I forgot to mention, when switching between portrait and landscape, Opera Mini dosen't auto re-adjust and refresh the layout, you need to refresh it manually if you try to see the examples from the O browser. This bug gave a false impression the first time I used Opera Mini, that the media rul

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
Checked one of a mobile sites I did that has inline image larger than 480px and no width/height attributes were declared in the CSS and markup, but Opera Mini is able to resize the image fits in the screen. I think I have a fine guess what has gone wrong with your inline image-it's simply too

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
tee wrote: This site may give you a general idea how much it may cost your mobile user per page. http://mobiready.com tee Granted all 7 images in the portfolio section are heavy, Nevertheless, the mobile device is SanyoMirro [ a "low-end" handset-- it is not a "smart-phone" ]

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
Duncan Hill wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:41:33 +0100, David Laakso wrote: Having checked in Opera desktop, which does respond to the @media queries, and the N80, I have a suspicion that there may be something in your header that is maintaining a side scroll on the handheld. Could that be

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Storey
On 5 Aug 2010, at 23:51, tee wrote: On Aug 5, 2010, at 2:05 PM, David Storey wrote: On 5 Aug 2010, at 21:12, tee wrote: Hi David, Having done 2 full sites+ many exercise mobile sites, I view at Opera Mini (including the Mobile 10) the Internet Explorer 6+7, it's a browser one will ha

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Storey
On 6 Aug 2010, at 00:48, tee wrote: On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:41 PM, David Laakso wrote: Whoops. Hit send too soon. Here's the rest of it... Got the iPod screenshot, thanks -- will look into it. The image issue has been resloved in the Opera Mini Simulator and in the Sany Mirro handset [a l

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:41 PM, David Laakso wrote: > > > Whoops. Hit send too soon. Here's the rest of it... > > > Got the iPod screenshot, thanks -- will look into it. > > The image issue has been resloved in the Opera Mini Simulator and in the Sany > Mirro handset [a low-end device] with Dun

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread Duncan Hill
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:41:33 +0100, David Laakso wrote: I changed the CSS as follows to reduce the image width: /* was 96% */ @media handheld, screen and (max-width: 480px), screen and (max-device-width: 480px) { body#p #main img { max-width : 35% !important; height : auto !important; } }

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread Duncan Hill
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:41:33 +0100, David Laakso wrote: Whoops. Hit send too soon. Here's the rest of it... Got the iPod screenshot, thanks -- will look into it. The image issue has been resloved in the Opera Mini Simulator and in the Sany Mirro handset [a low-end device] with Duncan's s

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
> > 1. Pre tag - in portrait view if a line of content is longer than the device > width, it doesn't wrap. Correction! Not that it doesn't wrap (can pre tag wrap? I thought not), I think it's the font size (even in % and EM) does not re-adjust like other two do when you switch from Landscape t

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
On Aug 5, 2010, at 2:05 PM, David Storey wrote: > > On 5 Aug 2010, at 21:12, tee wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Having done 2 full sites+ many exercise mobile sites, I view at Opera Mini >> (including the Mobile 10) the Internet Explorer 6+7, it's a browser one will >> hate it, curse it more t

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Storey
On 5 Aug 2010, at 21:12, tee wrote: Hi David, Having done 2 full sites+ many exercise mobile sites, I view at Opera Mini (including the Mobile 10) the Internet Explorer 6+7, it's a browser one will hate it, curse it more than praise it :-( What are your issues with Opera Mobile (Opera Mi

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote: tee wrote: I sent you a screenshot taken from Opera Mini directly from iPod using landscape view It might go into your junk box. I am quite certain the image is the result of the max-width declaration in your img and the horizontal scrolling is the product of EM width with

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
tee wrote: I sent you a screenshot taken from Opera Mini directly from iPod using landscape view It might go into your junk box. I am quite certain the image is the result of the max-width declaration in your img and the horizontal scrolling is the product of EM width with the combination of

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
I sent you a screenshot taken from Opera Mini directly from iPod using landscape view It might go into your junk box. I am quite certain the image is the result of the max-width declaration in your img and the horizontal scrolling is the product of EM width with the combination of max-width. O

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
Duncan Hill wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:27:24 +0100, David Laakso wrote: markup Best, ~d Only an old Nokia N80 to test on. Messed with Opera Mini settings and the only way to get the image to display at larger than mini size was to

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
tee wrote: Hi David, I think the problem might be this: body#p #main img {border: 3px solid red;display: block; max-width : 96% !important; height : auto !important; margin : 20px 0 0 0; } Should it not be "body#p, #main img"? tee #p is the id for the styles specific to the portfolio

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread Duncan Hill
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:27:24 +0100, David Laakso wrote: markup css around line 669 The image does not fill the width of the window in Sanyo Mirro scp3810 for BoostMobile running Opera Mini

Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread tee
Hi David, Having done 2 full sites+ many exercise mobile sites, I view at Opera Mini (including the Mobile 10) the Internet Explorer 6+7, it's a browser one will hate it, curse it more than praise it :-( I think the problem might be this: body#p #main img {border: 3px solid red;display: block;

[WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::

2010-08-05 Thread David Laakso
markup css around line 669 The image does not fill the width of the window in Sanyo Mirro scp3810 for BoostMobile running Opera Mini 5.1 nor in the Opera Mini Simulator.