Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain But Ralph has never expected to win, so whether he can get anything done is not a deal-breaking matter. He's campaigning to bring attention to issues that he thinks are too important to ignore. He did say in direct respo

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain That should read "COUNT," by the way. Of all the possible typos... on 10/30/04 12:10 AM, Mark Darling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are advanced democracies that still function with names written in pencil on paper

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain

2004-10-29 Thread SOFA
As a 'practical conservative' (not a liberal, sorry; plenty of liberal leanings, but just not quite there), and one who voted Nader last time, I'm not pissed at Ralph for what happened last go-round. Jeb, yeah, I'm pissed at him. The way the courts were halted, yeah I'm pissed about that. B

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain There are advanced democracies that still function with names written in pencil on paper ballots  that still have greater accuracy than we do. It doesn't take all that long to cunt, either. Less complicated might be a be

[Zappa-List] Reoffer

2004-10-29 Thread Zappa Fan
Hi, everybody. I know it´s too soon, but happy Halloween to all... Thanks to J.L., from Dallas, TX, I am now the happy owner of the 2 CD set "Petit Wazoo 11-11-72" (that solves part of my problems, SOFA), and I would like to reoffer it to someone who promises to pass it on *as it is* (copy the

[Zappa-List] Re: REOFFER - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc

2004-10-29 Thread Dawayne Bailey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "abxer3p" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all -- > > The Buffalo 74 concert, plus second bonus mystery disc, is now mine to offer you, with heartfelt thanks to Mike A. This is all FLAC soundboard, so first to shoot me your address offlist, and promises to reoffer

Re: [Zappa-List] REOFFER CLOSED - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc

2004-10-29 Thread abxer3p
Jim jumped in quick, so this goes to him.  Watch for the reoffer soon.   Joseph - Original Message - From: abxer3p To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] REOFFER - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc Hello all

[Zappa-List] REOFFER - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc

2004-10-29 Thread abxer3p
Hello all --   The Buffalo 74 concert, plus second bonus mystery disc, is now mine to offer you, with heartfelt thanks to Mike A.  This is all FLAC soundboard, so first to shoot me your address offlist, and promises to reoffer, will get this in the mail very soon.  This is one of the hotter

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain

2004-10-29 Thread Jim L
I agree it could be a good thing in the long run. It seems ridiculous that here in the twenty-first century voting fraud is so easily possible. Some of the newer computerized voting machines are even less reliable and un-checkable. Some communities have sent back their Debold machines beca

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread ESO
It's not his fault; he isn't helping though. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:32:01 -0400, Mark Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these > cretins? Scary! > Mark from Swing State Michigan > > What I want to know is what if bush d

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Could be rough. Legal challenges re going to be EVERYWHERE! I think it could be a good thing, though. A heightened awareness of elective procedure would benefit people. Seen Palast's report on black-vote suppression again in Florida and Ohio? Mark, Naderite > > I cannot take the polls seriously.

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these cretins? Scary! Mark from Swing State Michigan What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? For fu

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic. Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it." Mark > > > I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at > least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I li

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Darling
Ralph has been saying that in a Gallup/ABC poll of Nader voters, after those who would not vote at all if he were nor running are taken out, fifty percent are coming from Republicans. I can believe it. Liberals are pissed at him and blame him for 2000, erroneously in my opinion. Mark > > Well, I

[Zappa-List] mini vine REOFFER Boston 04-27-75 Flac format

2004-10-29 Thread abxer3p
Hello all,   With much thanks to Dimi (and those before him), I have this single FLAC disc to pass along to the first person to contact me offlist with a promise to reoffer.   thx, Joseph   The information is as follows:   27-Apr 1975, Music Hall, Boston, MA Early Show: 89 min, Aud, A-/B+Im

Re: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks!

2004-10-29 Thread Milhouse481
In a message dated 10/29/04 5:09:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I definitely have to second that.  I've met lots of friendly and helpful folks here.  I'm glad to be a part of it all.   Joseph -A definite "ditto" from me. With all the friendly people here and the great

Re: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks!

2004-10-29 Thread abxer3p
I definitely have to second that.  I've met lots of friendly and helpful folks here.  I'm glad to be a part of it all.   Joseph - Original Message - From: CF To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks! To all w

[Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Andrew Hale
I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd love to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform se

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Milhouse481
In a message dated 10/29/04 1:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying momentfor the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, andthe people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over."I just wan

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread ESO
Well, I don't dislike Nader. His ideas are good ones, but in the grand scheme of things he is not helping the situation by running. Every vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. It's as simple as that. Inflamed? I am totally digusted at this shitstorm. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:14:53 -, Andrew Hale

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread ESO
I cannot take the polls seriously. Especially when you look at where they are coming from... The really fucked up thing about this is we may not really know who actually won for a few days to a week. Do not get your hopes up. I have a feeling this is going to be worse than 2000. Of course I hope

[Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Andrew Hale
What truly confounds me is how close the race is between Boosh and Kerry...and how they just ignore Nader as if he's not there. I mean there are people this time, who usually don't vote, voting against Boosh, just to oust him and it's still neck and neck. Damn. The Boosh lackeys were caught la

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Jim L
I'll be voting. Planning to be there when the polls open to avoid the rush.   What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? I've been preparing myself mentally for that one because the tracking polls of likely voters are looking like it could go th

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread ESO
It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying moment for the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, and the people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over." I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? Milhouse? On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:4

[Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Andrew Hale
Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who wasn't even elected in the first place is going to be president without being elected again. Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment. -YH --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, i

[Zappa-List] Many Thanks!

2004-10-29 Thread CF
To all who0 have turned me on to all the shows and music since I joined this wonderful group! Keep em comming and I'll pass em on! Thanks to Colsten for the free mp3's.Always wanted to hear the Pauley Pav.1971 show! Carry on and have a great weekend folks! Chris Y

[Zappa-List] US elections and Florida - dumb all over again

2004-10-29 Thread Danny ODare
Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel:   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm   Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go missing in Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that they go missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Flori