George Cobabe favored us with:
The problem is that the doctrine of the trinity is so convoluted we cannot
if discuss it without being subject to the same requirements of confusion
and misunderstanding.
Not much simpler is it?
I think I got it the second time around. Still, conceptually it is a
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From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin
> George Cobabe favored us with:
> >Marc - would it be true to say that we LDS beli
George Cobabe favored us with:
Marc - would it be true to say that we LDS believe in a universal definition
of Godhood, and what is entailed in that high station, and see infinite
manifestations of that universal concept? What is "God" is a universal
constant that many, many are exalted to confor
Jon Spencer wrote:
> I watched a very learned Lutheran schoolar explain this entire subject (the
> Trinity) on TV once, and I felt inclined to write to the school that gave
> him his doctor of divinity degree and advise them to retract it.
>
> It was pure, illogical gibberish, with many hidden (
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The problem is there's a trap for the innocent here. I know what you mean,
and
would agree with it. The problem is that Platonists would ascribe an
*independent*
existence to a character
The problem is there's a trap for the innocent here. I know what you mean, and
would agree with it. The problem is that Platonists would ascribe an *independent*
existence to a characteristic. Kind of like turning an adjective into a noun. So
"God" became an abstract and separate existence "an und
rue - then does the false notion of trinitarianism have a basis
in truth, but then it is corrupted in its application?
George
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From: "Marc A. Schindler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>e Monday, December 16, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION]
I'll give it a try (but of course keep in mind that I'm not defending it, just
trying to explain it from a creedal Christian point of view).
There are a number of variations of trinitarianism, but I'll stick with the basic
one set up at the Council of Chalcedon. The creedal statement basically rea
Stacy Smith wrote:
> The way I understood the entire thing is that it would be like splitting
>
> water into its various forms but with each being capable of reacting
> separately, something water can't do.
>
> Stacy.
So basic'ly, we're back at the malfunctioning transporter again. (See
the
I'd like to find an electronically scanned text copy if possible.
Stacy.
At 10:58 AM 12/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I watched a very learned Lutheran schoolar explain this entire subject (the
Trinity) on TV once, and I felt inclined to write to the school that gave
him his doctor of divinity degr
Was that a pun? If so, then you should capitalize Mass!
Jon
Till the confusing wrote:
> At 10:58 12/13/2002 -0500, St Jon wrote:
> >I watched a very learned Lutheran schoolar explain this entire subject
(the
> >Trinity) on TV once, and I felt inclined to write to the school that gave
> >him his
At 10:58 12/13/2002 -0500, St Jon wrote:
I watched a very learned Lutheran schoolar explain this entire subject (the
Trinity) on TV once, and I felt inclined to write to the school that gave
him his doctor of divinity degree and advise them to retract it.
It was pure, illogical gibberish, with ma
I watched a very learned Lutheran schoolar explain this entire subject (the
Trinity) on TV once, and I felt inclined to write to the school that gave
him his doctor of divinity degree and advise them to retract it.
It was pure, illogical gibberish, with many hidden (and unproven)
assumptions. As
The way I understood the entire thing is that it would be like splitting
water into its various forms but with each being capable of reacting
separately, something water can't do.
Stacy.
At 03:46 PM 12/12/2002 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
> I think that as a former Protestant I unders
Stacy Smith wrote:
> I think that as a former Protestant I understood much about trinitarian
> theology and understood what it meant. I had very few vague ideas about
>
> the subject.
Could you explain it to me, then? In all my years in Southern Baptist,
and in all my wife's years in vario
I think that as a former Protestant I understood much about trinitarian
theology and understood what it meant. I had very few vague ideas about
the subject. I was a much better Bible student than many of my fellow
members. I can't say as much for the Book of Mormon but I am getting to
know i
Gary Smith favored us with:
>If progression between kingdoms ends up being a possibility, perhaps it
>becomes an incentive for those who desire to grow to eventually become
>celestialized. I dunno. I think that it may be possible, just that it
>would take them "worlds without end" (DC 131) to achie
John W. Redelfs wrote:
>
> I'm with Elder McConkie, progression between kingdoms is heresy. It
> violates the true principle that mercy cannot rob justice. THIS life is
> the time to prepare to meet God. After this life no labor can be
> performed. It says so in the Book of Mormon, so it must b
Gary Smith favored us with:
If progression between kingdoms ends up being a possibility, perhaps it
becomes an incentive for those who desire to grow to eventually become
celestialized. I dunno. I think that it may be possible, just that it
would take them "worlds without end" (DC 131) to achieve
Gary Smith wrote:
> Most people don't understand well the doctrines of their church. That
> includes LDS members, though the active ones probably understand our
> basic tenets better than those of other churches. Most Trinitarians do
> not understand the Trinity well (most believe in modalism, a f
Most people don't understand well the doctrines of their church. That
includes LDS members, though the active ones probably understand our
basic tenets better than those of other churches. Most Trinitarians do
not understand the Trinity well (most believe in modalism, a few even
believe in the Godh
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