(313)(313)Check these online record shops

2000-07-29 Thread Leon sewell

I can reccomend these two fantastic online dance music record shops:

www.elesdesia.nl

Has a good selection of old school, Chicago,Detroit and New York stuff.They 
have a good quality service;these guys get the records out quickly!


www.blackrhythm.com

Good for old school New York  labels:smokin,underworld,warlock,apexton 
distributed labels,cutting,loads of freestyle stuff etc etc.


Again,these guys are good t do business with(unlike a certain other record 
shop I could mention...I wonder what that could be).


Why not check them out?

Btw,both these shops are based in Holland.

Peace

Leon

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Re: [313] Hotmix news

2000-07-29 Thread Minto Chempotical George

speakin' of viewlexx...when is Cocadisco 2 slated to come out? 1 was real
good and supposedly some ltd. release. Is the Parallax corp. album coming
out on vinyl too? love the italo influenced stuff ferenc has been kickin'
out lately.

minto



Hotmix news

2000-07-29 Thread Lance @ Inaudible
Ladies and gentlemen,

*The new and improved Viewlexx slipmats have arrived! Please note it's a
limited edition only.
Get your set at the Clone records mailorder dept. (www.clone.nl)

*Also the PANAMAMIX is available againand we haven't seen you around to
pick up a copy of Musique Compacte. Don't make us come to your house.
(www.clone.nl)

*How about the limited edition of the newly remastered 'Space invaders' 12"
with that killer bonus track 'Us & Ours & You & Yours'? A new standard has
been set so show me yours now!  (www.clone.nl)

*Murdercapital.nl  should be active one of these days so the Murdercapital
fans can dial direct now.  www.murdercapital.nl

*Several sections of the Hotmix homepage have been updated and some sound
have been added; Surf in today!

Follow the light:  www.hotmix.nl



motor tonight&free cd

2000-07-29 Thread .placebo .
Any 313 listmember going to the motor tonight, i will be there giving out 
free copies of my latest mix cd. Those of you not knowing me, please 
introduce yourself. I will be wearing a residual recordings t-shirt. Anyone 
else interrested in recieving a free cd, mail me a s.a.s.e. (big enough for 
a cd) and ill get one to you. email me back so i have an idea of how many to 
copy. Track selection is pretty much all over the place from Dan Curtin, to 
Rob Hood, Titonton, Johnny Fiasco, Boo Williams, Bob Sinclair, DJ Assault, 
Glenn Underground, and everywhere in between. Feedback is appreciated.


...kev...


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Re: [313] UR in Europe

2000-07-29 Thread Roland van Oorschot

At 12:47 07/29/2000 -0400, Jean-Michel Lavergne wrote:
If i translate in English: Underground resistance are the other side of 
Detroit techno. Under U.R., Jeff Mills and Mad Mike created radicals 
hardcore dance titles that nobody had done.


They did some revolutionary things, but to put a hardcore label on it... naaah!


This simple and repetitive type of techno had a big impact in Europe.


Simple? Repetitive? Everything but that!
And yes, it had his impact. But not only in Europe.

Try to find the UR compilation CD (LP?) Revolution for Change and hear for 
yourself.


This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore or trance forms, with 
a lot less quality.


Do you have examples of 'well-known' UR rip-offs?
I can't think of any.


Anyone have an opinion on this?


I wonder what your opinion is about the text. Since you've heard about UR I 
reckon you have heard records of UR (and the label).
Do you think UR is hardcore? Because when somebody refers to hardcore I 
always make the link to gabber and the likes. And UR is certainly no gabber 
(or hardcore, which it is called nowadays).



I don't know much of Detroit music history,


Buy Dan Sicko's (also a member of 313) book Techno Rebels.


 and even less knowledge of UR in Europe.


Trust me. Europe knows about the existance of UR :)

Which nono made up that in the first place?

Roland
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Re: [313] UR in Europe

2000-07-29 Thread BACKGROUN0

UR:
<< This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore or trance forms, with 
a lot less quality. >>

who da hell wrote this. i bet there would had been more to say about UR
about their early days then refering to hardcore & trance, pretty empty 
phrases
that really go no where. looking at that i wouldn`t believe that they are 
giving a show for promotors who actually don`t seem to know to much about 
detroit history & UR ...i mean why the hell should they? 


Re: [313] SG's a has been record store

2000-07-29 Thread BACKGROUN0
i totally have to agree to this. GO AND TELL THEM HOW YOU THINK ABOUT THEIR 
SERVICE, IF YOU WANT THINGS TO CHANGE. 

complaining on here won`t help much.


andy
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2000-07-29 Thread pietro


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UR in Europe

2000-07-29 Thread Jean-Michel Lavergne
Hi everyone, this is my first message to the 313 mailing list. Afriend of mine 
sended me an e-mail with the following observations:

Underground Resistance, qui symbolise l'autre versant de la techno de Detroit
Sous le nom d'Underground Resistance, Jeff Mills et Mad Mike créaient des 
titres de dance hardcore très radicaux, ce que personne ne faisait
Et ce type de techno simple et répétitive a eu beaucoup de retentissement en 
Europe, a été copiée voire plagiée sous des tas de formes de type harcore ou 
trance, d'une qualité bien inférieure

If i translate in English: Underground resistance are the other side of Detroit 
techno. Under U.R., Jeff Mills and Mad Mike created radicals hardcore dance 
titles that nobody had done. This simple and repetitive type of techno had a 
big impact in Europe. This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore or 
trance forms, with a lot less quality.

Anyone have an opinion on this? I don't know much of Detroit music history, and 
even less knowledge of UR in Europe.

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2000-07-29 Thread FAMZINE
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Re: [313] SG's a has been record store

2000-07-29 Thread Diana Potts



all this moaning about SG,and Im wondering if anyone is telling them that 
they are unsatisfied with their behavior _directly_. Instead of complaining 
HERE, why not just tell them directly in a constructive manner. Email the 
shop at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I suggest not calling them, they are usually really busy during the day or 
preoccupied or wait until you can talk to Adam,Frankie or Heather directly 
or Jon who heads up mail order-last I checked.


As long as SG is making the rent and the heavy traffic in the shop I doubt 
much will change, but I think its alot more pro-active to tell them directly 
instead of doing it here.



THIS ISN'T A FLAME,just a constructive suggestion

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florian re-entry + travel plans

2000-07-29 Thread Andrew Chuter
hi

This is Andrew Chuter, aka florian, from Sydney, Australia. I'm back on this
list after a 2.5 year absence. There's some info about my music interests
at:
http://spraci.cia.com.au/profiles/florian.html

In '98 I backpacked around Japan, the UK, and Europe with a bunch of
records. Musical highlights included seeing Kraftwerk at Sonar and dj'ing in
Kyoto and at Tresor's headquarters night. Thanks to those I hooked up with
along the way, including Otto, on this list.

After returning I started a radio program with my pals Agent Patrick, James
Bond, and Color, called Dark Energy.
http://www.darkenergy.nitro.com.au/home.htm

I sadly left that behind to teach English in Tokyo, where I am now, sans
vinyl.
A few Detroit related CD's I recommend from the last few years include
Drexciya - Neptune's Lair
Dopplereffekt - Gesamtkunstwerk
Jeff Mills - From the 21st
Dan Curtin - Pregenesis
Boards of Canada - SKAM008CD
Warp 10+1 Influences
and Bodenstandig 2000 on Rephlex for those with a sense of humour.

Anyway, I'm off travelling again, this time to New York, Washington DC,
Philadelphia, Detroit and Chicago, for at least 5 weeks, maybe more. I'm
leaving Tokyo on Sept. 15th (the 1st day of the Olympics). I like meeting
people with similar interests, so if any of you live around there, and want
to get together, please drop me an e-mail. I'm hoping to see some good DJ's
and live acts. Besides music (Detroit, 'idm', ambient, jazz, and world) I'm
also into art, film, books, history, science, nature, hiking, etc.

cheers
Andrew

p.s. shout out also to Patrick and Phil...



(313)Triplexxx/Audio Tech question

2000-07-29 Thread Leon sewell


  Hi all,

  Please could someone let me know if the Metroplex version of Triple XXX 
'The Bedroom Scene' is different from the Express version.


Speaking of Express records, can someone provide me with the track/mix 
listing for Juan Atkins' Audio Tech record? I think the track came out in ' 
87.Its been buggin' me for ages.


Thanx in advance

Leon


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Re: [313] millshouse?

2000-07-29 Thread Cyclone Wehner
He played housier in Sydney at Home on the same tour - one of my fave gigs
ever, even though I had a migraine!  I hear a 'housier' shift in his music
myself, though it is still minimal. Maybe we are moving into a new era of
techno - the music is 'deeper' and more melodic again. I wish Mills would do
more club dates over 'raves'. The crowds are more sophisticated.

If you like Mills, you'll like Oliver Ho's new album - the best minimal
techno Mills didn't make. Excellent cerebral stuff.

I saw Pacou last night here in Melbourne. The turn-out was small (I think a
lot of people are too tired to party Friday nights - they want housier
sounds instead of techno maybe) yet appreciative but I didn't really get
into it (I was not in the mood since everyone had forgotten my birthday and
I had expensive iMac computer repairs to worry about after a  mega crash on
an important deadline!!).

Peace

Cyclone

>After a number of listens to "every dog..." I want to agree with others on the 
>list who have suggested it's a masterpiece. To me it's a new direction for 
>Mills: he combines the floorfriendly momentum of the purposemaker releases 
>with 
>the abstract sounds of his axis stuff to produces a housesound uniquely his 
>own 
>(millshouse, perhaps). 
>
>Has anyone heard him play recently? He played Perth about 3 months ago, and 
>while excellent didn't descend into the housier sounds of the lp. Do you think 
>he's signalling a shift in sensibilities with the lp (dj-wise, I mean), or 
>merely presenting another side of himself as producer?
>
>Also, does anyone know the significance of the 'millsart' moniker he uses for 
>this release? I know he's used it before, but not on all the axis releases. 
>Which releases has he used it for, and how are they different to his "Jeff 
>Mills" releases?
>
>Lots of questions, but releases like these demand them
>
>Cheers
>
>Chris
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Re: [313]L HEARD TRACK ID

2000-07-29 Thread Cyclone Wehner

>I have a Green Velvet remix of a 1996 song called 'Nasty Girl' by Nuttin'
>Nyce (actually written by Prince)
>It has Velvet repeating that over and over (i'm so nasteee..) over a
>screeching 303 and a funky-ass progressing, hardhouse 
>909 beat.  Probably not the one your talking about but I love it anyway
>(of course it's scratched from rockin' countless 
>house parties with it on rickety tables)I got it for 99 cents at some
>clueless raver store a few years ago.   .Score.
>anyone else heard this?

Actually Nasty Girl is an old Vanity 6 song and the Nuttin' Nyce cover is
kinda lame. Vanity 6 was Prince's answer to the Mary Jane Girls and in fact
he 'stole' Vanity away from Rick James (or so the story goes) and they had
this rivalry thing going on for years afterwards. I have the Vanity 6 album
and I would say that phase of Prince's career was quite influential on the
likes of Green Velvet through to Timbaland, in terms of the minimal
production style and humour. The original has the droll lines, 'I need 7
inches or more' and 'wake me up when you're done' that kinda thing. 


Re: [313] SG's a has been record store

2000-07-29 Thread stephen
>has a great selection of older Chicago
>house music. But you have to know either an artist or a label to plug
into
>the search field.

Yeah, I agree with Fred.
That's the easy part, the hard part is actually receiving the records
you order in the mail.
What's their email address and phone number again?
I guess they don't want to bothered by all the customer complaints.

And to think I actually used to put up with that SG-BS.

stephen.







Re: [313] SG's not what it used to be-GRAMAPHONE

2000-07-29 Thread chris ege
>Another decent shop for old Chicago house goodies (and techno as well, btw)
>is Hot Jams at 5012 S. Pulaski.  About half of their inventory is used
>vinyl.  Two things I don't like about this shop though is the fact that all
>of the vinyl they have in the bins is kept under lock and key... so if you
>go there in person to flip through their inventory, it can get pretty
>aggravating in a hurry to try to find something.  The other thing is that
>they charge an arm and a leg for used vinyl, a lot of what they have will
>set you back $10 per 12" or more.  However, they do have a lot of hard to
>find classic stuff that you might not find at Gramaphone or 2nd Hand
>Tunes... everytime I've been there they've always had a good amount of stuff
>on the Trax label and DJ International, etc.  They do mail order as well,
>their number is 773-581-JAMS.  I still prefer Gramaphone over the others, as
>their selection (at least where new releases are concerned) is second to
>none in the city.  Now, if they would just figure out a way to create better
>parking arrangements in the area :)

(i know plaslaiko will agree with me on this one)

if you to hot jams, make sure you stop for lunch at MR. SUB.  hot damn.

btw, to make this sorta 313-related, I liked tresor 8.  The claude young is
great of course, but I love all the more uhh... "atmospheric" stuff too.

chris


Re: [313]L HEARD TRACK ID

2000-07-29 Thread concrete massage
I have a Green Velvet remix of a 1996 song called 'Nasty Girl' by Nuttin'
Nyce (actually written by Prince)
It has Velvet repeating that over and over (i'm so nasteee..) over a
screeching 303 and a funky-ass progressing, hardhouse 
909 beat.  Probably not the one your talking about but I love it anyway
(of course it's scratched from rockin' countless 
house parties with it on rickety tables)I got it for 99 cents at some
clueless raver store a few years ago.   .Score.
anyone else heard this?

np: Harry "choo choo" Romero - beats vol I - Subliminal

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:33:46 -0500 "JavierDrada"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Cajmere - Looking For A Man - Cajual
>

>> Mr. Fingers plays this record in every set I've heard him play. 303
>> melody circling on the top, bad ass bass line, banging kick and a 
>g-man
>> type of sound on the hits.
>>
>> The vocal is a guy saying //
>>
>> "I'm so nasty girl, I'm so nasty"
>>
>> and a girl saying //
>>
>> "I'm llooking for a man, I'm looking for a man to love me"
>>
>> PLEAE HELP ME I'D THIS TRACK AND IF ANYONE HAS IT AND WANTS TO SELL 
>IT
>> EVEN BETTER.
>>
>> // giles
>>
>>
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Re: [313] SG's not what it used to be-GRAMAPHONE

2000-07-29 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
If I remember correctly, the original Imports store was somewhere in the
South Loop (between the Loop itself and Chinatown)... then around '91 or '92
someone told me they had relocated up to a building on the northside... I
believe it was North Ave. somewhere around Milwaukee Ave.  I think they
closed their doors a few years back, I haven't heard anything of them since
then.

Another decent shop for old Chicago house goodies (and techno as well, btw)
is Hot Jams at 5012 S. Pulaski.  About half of their inventory is used
vinyl.  Two things I don't like about this shop though is the fact that all
of the vinyl they have in the bins is kept under lock and key... so if you
go there in person to flip through their inventory, it can get pretty
aggravating in a hurry to try to find something.  The other thing is that
they charge an arm and a leg for used vinyl, a lot of what they have will
set you back $10 per 12" or more.  However, they do have a lot of hard to
find classic stuff that you might not find at Gramaphone or 2nd Hand
Tunes... everytime I've been there they've always had a good amount of stuff
on the Trax label and DJ International, etc.  They do mail order as well,
their number is 773-581-JAMS.  I still prefer Gramaphone over the others, as
their selection (at least where new releases are concerned) is second to
none in the city.  Now, if they would just figure out a way to create better
parking arrangements in the area :)

BTW, for whoever was trying to reach Gramaphone's web site and was unable to
get it to come up, their number is 773-472-3683 if you want to do a mail
order from them or get some info...

Matt
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Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com

> PS. Anyone know what happened to the legendary Chicago record shop IMPORTS
> ETC., where Chip E. worked and stuff. Any info about this shop would be
> appreciated.
> DJ Izrail's excellent "Chicago blood line" mix has a great 10 mins of TALK
> by Izrail, when he pays respect to the old skool, he mentions this shop of
> course...




millshouse?

2000-07-29 Thread Christopher Davey
After a number of listens to "every dog..." I want to agree with others on the 
list who have suggested it's a masterpiece. To me it's a new direction for 
Mills: he combines the floorfriendly momentum of the purposemaker releases with 
the abstract sounds of his axis stuff to produces a housesound uniquely his own 
(millshouse, perhaps). 

Has anyone heard him play recently? He played Perth about 3 months ago, and 
while excellent didn't descend into the housier sounds of the lp. Do you think 
he's signalling a shift in sensibilities with the lp (dj-wise, I mean), or 
merely presenting another side of himself as producer?

Also, does anyone know the significance of the 'millsart' moniker he uses for 
this release? I know he's used it before, but not on all the axis releases. 
Which releases has he used it for, and how are they different to his "Jeff 
Mills" releases?

Lots of questions, but releases like these demand them

Cheers

Chris


Re: [313] ANSWER TO MR. FINGERS QUESTION // L HEARD TRACK ID

2000-07-29 Thread JavierDrada
Cajmere - Looking For A Man - Cajual

It's at 31 minutes 43 seconds exactly on an archive I have of his, try this
link

http://216.221.167.25/Media/LH1296B1.asx

j.d.

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504.837.4783 tel
504.553.5628 tel
504.553.5627 fax

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From: "Giles Dickerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:34 AM
Subject: [313] MR. FINGERS QUESTION // L HEARD TRACK ID


> TRACK ID //
>
> Mr. Fingers plays this record in every set I've heard him play. 303
> melody circling on the top, bad ass bass line, banging kick and a g-man
> type of sound on the hits.
>
> The vocal is a guy saying //
>
> "I'm so nasty girl, I'm so nasty"
>
> and a girl saying //
>
> "I'm llooking for a man, I'm looking for a man to love me"
>
> PLEAE HELP ME I'D THIS TRACK AND IF ANYONE HAS IT AND WANTS TO SELL IT
> EVEN BETTER.
>
> // giles
>
>
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Re: [313] tressor 8

2000-07-29 Thread Kuri Kondrak
> i just listened to Tressor Comp Vol 8 last night.  to tell you the truth i
> am kinda disappointed by it.  the only track on it that i really liked was
> the new Claude Young one.  it seems to me that claude young can do no wrong
> right now.  am i the only one that thinks that???  anyways i would much
> rather listen to tressor vol 4 or vol 5.  both of those are excellent.

i haven't heard the tresor 8 yet but i haven't heard much from 
claude that i've liked recently. his Brother From Another Planet is still
my top claude release. 
> 

-- 
Kuri Kondrak
Resonance Magazine