Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread Dave Walker
The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
Very cool.  Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
Second Bad Vilbel video.

 -d.w.


Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
 Very cool.  Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
 Second Bad Vilbel video.

Just saw it myself and I had the same reaction.  Not very cheesy, and the
edit from the track was nicely done, fairly dense.  Fast cuts on the video
edit.  I wouldn't be surprised if it ran during x-files as well.

Good to see you're still out there, Dave.
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paper

2000-11-13 Thread christos
Some of you may remember that I am writting a paper on media conglomerates
trying to sell unerground music/culture, and that I am trying to get as
much information as I can about the UR vs. Sony case.  I know that this
has been asked recently, and I apologize for that, but can anyone tell me
who officially produced the fake Jaguar, what label it is currently on,
and where I can find information about it, including an mp3 of it?  Thanks
in advance and hit me up privatly if necessary.

-christos



Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread sean deason
then it's agreed. we all like Malcolm in the Middle :^) I saw it too and was
quite pleasantly surprised. They shouldve given us a warning (warning: the
following commercial contains a funky ass techno track and may knock the
socks off of oldschool tech heads) or listed it on the TV guide or
something. you cant just spring something like that on a person all out of
the blue like :^)

sean
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 Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
 
 on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
 Very cool.  Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
 Second Bad Vilbel video.
 
 Just saw it myself and I had the same reaction.  Not very cheesy, and the
 edit from the track was nicely done, fairly dense.  Fast cuts on the video
 edit.  I wouldn't be surprised if it ran during x-files as well.
 
 Good to see you're still out there, Dave.
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Re: [313] Mark Kinchen

2000-11-13 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, RC wrote:

 Maybe someone can confirm this, but didn't he go mainstream and started to
 produce for people like Madonna (amongst others) in early '90's, or was that
 his brother Scott?

Mark went to school with my wife and I spoke with him at their reunion.  I
can confirm this.  He's in NY now.



RE: [313] Re: midem vs. sonar

2000-11-13 Thread Gwendal Cobert
  A friend who is off list is thinking of going to either.

 MIDEM: Looks like WMC Europe (bad) to me (http://www.midem.com/)

 MIDEM: Is in Cannes (good), but in late January (br)
no - one good thing about Cannes is that the weather remains nice - even in
January

 Sonar: Doesn't look or feel like WMC (good)

 Sonar: Is in Barcelona (better), and in mid June (ahh)

 I know which one I'd choose.  (Hint: I've been to Sonar
 twice, MIDEM nonce)
The two are completly different - from what I remember, Sonar is techno only
with a focus on the most interesting artists, Midem is music industry at
large with a focus on what's selling

Gwendal



RE: [313] Re: midem vs. sonar

2000-11-13 Thread Ryan Heard
Sonar is fairly broad actually... sets i've heard in real audio are from as
far reaching as Kit Clayton to Scion w/ Tikiman... even listened to some
nice Chicago House.  I would definitely go to Sonar over pretty much
anything, given the opportunity.

Ryan Heard

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Re: midem vs. sonar


  A friend who is off list is thinking of going to either.

 MIDEM: Looks like WMC Europe (bad) to me (http://www.midem.com/)

 MIDEM: Is in Cannes (good), but in late January (br)
no - one good thing about Cannes is that the weather remains nice - even in
January

 Sonar: Doesn't look or feel like WMC (good)

 Sonar: Is in Barcelona (better), and in mid June (ahh)

 I know which one I'd choose.  (Hint: I've been to Sonar
 twice, MIDEM nonce)
The two are completly different - from what I remember, Sonar is techno only
with a focus on the most interesting artists, Midem is music industry at
large with a focus on what's selling

Gwendal


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deep chord

2000-11-13 Thread Tom Churchill
Any UK list-members know where I could get hold of the Deep Chord material
in London? Anxious to check it out after some of the discussion on the list
recently...

Batch of reviews to come this week - there's some awesome new material
coming from the Defocus and Delsin camps, not to mention the continued rise
of West London nu jazz...

Cheers,

Tom




Redux - Finale!!

2000-11-13 Thread dj revolver
Yep, I hopped in the studio at 1130pm last night and threw together one last 
Redux track called Technological Garbage II.  The 1st few listens I'm sure 
will be quite confusing but if you listen enough times and play it loud 
enough it starts to make sense ;-)


Listen at http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/SongDetail.asp?PID=45787

(Technological Garbage I is almost the same but has an annoying, unfitting 
techno line in the middle of it).

enjoy,
djr
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Betr.: Re: [313] Mark Kinchen

2000-11-13 Thread Wibo Lammerts
Isn't he doing some RB stuff with (t)his group 702?

W




 Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13-11-2000 5:27:38 
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, RC wrote:

 Maybe someone can confirm this, but didn't he go mainstream and
started to
 produce for people like Madonna (amongst others) in early '90's, or
was that
 his brother Scott?

Mark went to school with my wife and I spoke with him at their reunion.
 I
can confirm this.  He's in NY now.


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Re: [313] Betr.: Re: [313] Mark Kinchen

2000-11-13 Thread Jochem_Peteri


He did production for En Vogue fo a while, produced one of their albums(and
he did quite a good job, excellent album, forgot the title,yy, 154 def down wit
EV!!)




Re: this sunday

2000-11-13 Thread paul
sorry if this doesn't apply to you but we need to get
this message out.

this sunday's innercity party with
carl craig  k1 
is defenitely on

apparently there are rumours to the contrary but
please just ignore them.

thanks
paul innercity
www.innercity.co.uk





Missing links in that Theo Live in Detroit tracklisting...

2000-11-13 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Nate (and interested others),

Track 12 from Theo Parrish's Live in Detroit '99 is from Blaze's Artful
Noyz EP for Area Code records. I have had this since it came out and,
because I always listened to the (absolutely excellent) Love For You on
the other side, never realised that I had the track you're looking for. This
is the very latiny type Body  Soul track that begins just before side 1
ends (or about 46 mins on the CD). He only plays the second half of the full
track.

Hope that helps. Now there's only 2 to get, and one of them's Mysterious
People. Email me off list for a full listing if you want it.

Take care,

Jonny.

NP: Karen Pollock Reach Out To Me.




Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread Kent williams
I was watching fox too.  The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:

DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)

Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and assign a new meaning to it, namely
a FORD Automobile.

It was another example as well of a commercial with an 'in' joke.  The
association of the car with Detroit Techno at the end only works, or works
best, if you know that it's a Juan Atkins track.  Otherwise, it's just another
anonymous dance track.

BTW Any show where people beat the crap out of clowns is great in my book

kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Derrick Carter mix. Track IDs?

2000-11-13 Thread Jonny McIntosh
I've just been listening to Derrick Carter's mix on

www.biostat.wisc.edu/~rose/house/mixes12a.htm (its #328).

Can anybody ID any of the following:

1. The Martin Luther King sampling track at around 7 minutes in.
2. The track after MAW's mix of DeeLite's Runaway at approx 35mins.
(at which point the whole thing goes off!)?

Thanks,

Jonny.





Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread Glyph1001

In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was watching fox too.  The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:

DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)

Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and assign a new meaning to it, namely
a FORD Automobile.

Most people don't even know what the first meaning of it is, let alone any 
new one.

It was another example as well of a commercial with an 'in' joke.  The
association of the car with Detroit Techno at the end only works, or works
best, if you know that it's a Juan Atkins track.  Otherwise, it's just another
anonymous dance track.
 

Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a 
MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ???

That kind of mass recognition is long past due for the Godfather of Techno.

And isn't it the POINT that you're gratified by knowing it's Juan's track 
underneath the commercial and the masses don't ? Would you be more happy if 
they were using a Crystal Method or Fatboy Slim or Moby track like they do 
everything else? Dang, let the man have his due, for God's sakes.

Alan Oldham via Glyph1001
(couldn't resist, dammit)


moodyman track id

2000-11-13 Thread Paul V

Hi all

I'm looking for a track id

from the Kenny Dixon DEMF set on groovetech

he played it in
his  set at approx 29 minutes

just be thankful for what you've got

s smooth

thanks in advance

time for a timewarp
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Re: [313] Re: midem vs. sonar

2000-11-13 Thread Alex Hillinger
Midem is pretty business heavy and most of it isn't electronic-music oriented.
It's a business trade-show first and a music showcase second. BTW - Cannes
isn't warm in January, it's not freezing but it ain't WMC. It's also EXPENSIVE
AS HELL. Drinks are about $10 - $15 each. Lodging sucks and is expensive too.
The food rocks though.

Sonar is a music festival first and a conference second. Barcelona is the
coolest city on the planet IMO. And the food rocks and the weather is warm and
Spanish people rule and it's fairly inexpensive by European standards. Love
that country..;)

I think it really depends on what your friend hopes to accomplish - hardcore
business it'd be Midem. Fun and schmoozing it'd be Sonar.

So long,
Alex



Ryan Heard wrote:

 Sonar is fairly broad actually... sets i've heard in real audio are from as
 far reaching as Kit Clayton to Scion w/ Tikiman... even listened to some
 nice Chicago House.  I would definitely go to Sonar over pretty much
 anything, given the opportunity.

 Ryan Heard

 -Original Message-
 From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 1:45 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] Re: midem vs. sonar

   A friend who is off list is thinking of going to either.
 
  MIDEM: Looks like WMC Europe (bad) to me (http://www.midem.com/)
 
  MIDEM: Is in Cannes (good), but in late January (br)
 no - one good thing about Cannes is that the weather remains nice - even in
 January

  Sonar: Doesn't look or feel like WMC (good)
 
  Sonar: Is in Barcelona (better), and in mid June (ahh)
 
  I know which one I'd choose.  (Hint: I've been to Sonar
  twice, MIDEM nonce)
 The two are completly different - from what I remember, Sonar is techno only
 with a focus on the most interesting artists, Midem is music industry at
 large with a focus on what's selling

 Gwendal

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email prob

2000-11-13 Thread philip

anyone else using eudora lite 3 having probs with 313 digest occasionally
hanging eudora?

p-d



TIGERBEAT6 tour

2000-11-13 Thread blevin
TIGERBEAT6 PAWS ACROSS THE MIDWEST Tour!

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Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread Kent williams
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a 
 MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ???
 

I'm glad he's getting paid. I can be glad for him and still be a bit disturbed
by the commercial can't I? My being disturbed comes out of my feelings for
the music; to me it's a lot more than a commercial soundtrack.

Face it, Commercials use drum  bass and techno and hip hop beats all the
time because it doesn't have words, and it's relatively cheap to license.
They'd use Elvis songs if it suited their purpose and it came cheap.
Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
manipulation of people to the advertiser's will.  In that context, music
is in service of capitalist mind control.  It's worth more than that to
me on it's own terms.



RE: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-13 Thread Topping, Micah
 Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
 manipulation of people to the advertiser's will.  In that 
 context, music
 is in service of capitalist mind control.  It's worth more 
 than that to
 me on it's own terms.
actually it sounds to me like your beef is more with commercials than any
set style of music being used within them

Commercials are meant only to manipulate people to the company's will.
thats the whole idea.
i guess im one of those ignorant people that doesn't see how ford focus'
getting sold will destroy techno.


Two Moody Q's

2000-11-13 Thread AeOtaku
1) Um  saw a copy of Analog Live today:
   does everyone else's copy look like this one?
   The one I saw looked like a one-sided white
   label with only one track that had label art
   looking like a pasted on xerox. I'd tell you
   how it sounded, but the vinyl had all sorts of
   pockmarks and indentations, causing the stylus
   to bounce around like a lowrider. I heard the
   first white label for this had two tracks, so
   evidently things have changed. Please tell me
   there are copies out there that play without
   skipping and I just saw a mispressing. 

2) Can anyone tell me the tracklisting on
   the old Black Sunday 12 that was the
   promo for Mahogany Brown? Does it have a
   track exclusive to the album, or is it just
   Black Sunday? I thought it had an exclusive,
   but then I heard it was one-sided (which
   wouldn't surprise me - what the heck is with
   Kenny and these one-sided records!)

Thanks,

Matt


FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION..

2000-11-13 Thread defragged
  d  e  _  f  r  a  g  


Pulled this off the net:

MIAMI, Oct. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Ford (NYSE:F) unveiled the latest in its series of
limited edition Focus cars with the introduction of the Focus Street Edition at
the Miami Auto Show today. Focus Street Edition incorporates fashion, music and
fun to attract the Echo Boom generation. As part of the ongoing episodic Focus
launch, Detroit Techno music will become a focal point for the overall Focus
marketing campaign.
Focus Street Edition features a European-tuned suspension, black body kit,
6-disc in-dash CD changer, sport bucket seats as well as 16 inch six-spoke
machined aluminum wheels and a chrome exhaust tip.

On the exterior, the front chin, rocker panels, bodyside moldings and lower rear
fascia are in black. Colors are Infra-Red, and for the first time on sedan and
wagon, Egg Yolk Yellow and Malibu Blue.

Street Edition uses the same springs, dampers and anti-roll bars found in the
European Focus, offering driving enthusiasts enhanced agility, stability and
precision handling.

Inside, it features sport bucket seats with European-style diamond patterned
seat inserts. A silver-masked instrument cluster, radio bezel, door accents and
a silver shift knob highlight the interior package.

Street Edition combines elements that we feel people who love to drive
will embrace. This car has stylistic qualities as well as great driving dynamics
that set it apart from the crowd, said Focus Brand Manager Bob Fesmire.

Music a Key for Young Consumers

Focus has been a hit with young car buyers, with almost half the buyers age 35
or younger. Focus marketing revolves around fashion, music and summer fun, all
designed to appeal to young consumers. Street Edition is an important part of
the overall marketing effort, and it will use an exciting new sound from Detroit
to appeal to young consumers.

Since the Focus is attracting younger, more diverse buyers, we wanted to
continue to develop marketing programs that fit the personality and lifestyle of
our target buyers, said Fesmire. Detroit Techno is a music style
that is recognized by young people around the world. We know that music is one
of the biggest passions for our young car buyers, so it made sense for us to
incorporate a unique music element in our campaign.

Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit
Techno on posters and in print ads.

The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since
Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the
Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars.

There will be only 7,500 total Street Editions built with approximately 85
percent of them available as a Sedan. With an MSRP of $15,750 (Sedan) and
$17,745 (Wagon), these statement edition vehicles will be sold nationwide
beginning in December.


hmmm, tempting!


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