[313] Re: LA Weekly Juan interview

2001-11-04 Thread Greg Earle
James Hurlbut wrote:
 The LAWeekly did a cover story on the nine lives of rave this week.
 Past the obligatory Oakenfold rulez spread is a nice little interview with 
 Juan Atkins where he talks about racial barriers in America and Trance as 
 soulless marching music.  Parallel to discussions I've read on this board, 
 he cites a black dude -- one of my homeboys in Detroit (Red Planet - Star 
 Dancer) as the Trance sound's blueprint.  Thought someone might be 
 interested, available at www.laweekly.com .  Also Larry Heard in LA on 
 November 24th!!!  Can't wait for that one.

Damn, you beat me to that one, James.  Direct link:

http://www.LAWeekly.COM/ink/01/50/cover-mathis.shtml

Where did you read/hear about Larry Heard coming to LA?

- Greg (who's gonna wear his Stardancer t-shirt to raves now)

P.S. Am I the only person that gets seemingly-random posts to the list
 dropped for no reason?  I posted last weekend about Richie's LA
 appearance, and it never showed up in the following Digests.  Gr...


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[313] Way OT Re: [313] technology vs. art

2001-11-04 Thread Mike Taylor
From the people I have spoken with who have them, the sound quality is about 
the same as a telephone call. It is a bit tinny, but the technology can only 
improve. When Direct Neural Interfaces enter the market, then you will see a 
sharp increase in the quality of these products. One of the benefits of 
having an aging population in the west is that there is going to be a 
massive amount of funding for projects like this.


The idea of imparting hearing through the electrical stimulation of the 
nerves between the hearing canal and the brain still blows my mind. Again, 
the choice between profound deafness and a tinny sound seems an easy choice 
to me. The more I think about it, the only possible worse form of sense 
disability would be the lack of touch.


And technically, your question about music access is already available.
With current Cochlear technology and a wireless data connection, you could 
literally access your entire digital music collection, pull a song out of 
the aether, and listen to it through your implants.


In 10 years it will be likely that you will not actually own a physical 
music collection(unless you are a specialist vinyl collector), and you will 
be able to access it anywhere in a metropolitan area via a wireless citywide 
LAN.


In 25 years you will probably have cochlear implants or a decendant of the 
concept just as a matter of convienience. Why carry a cell phone or a MP3 
player when you can just stream everything into your implant. News, Sports, 
Weather, anything you need will be available directly through 
neuro-implants.


Anyway, Tristan, after the beating anyone involved with dance music has 
given their ears over the years, I imagine anything will sound better than 
our regular hearing in 2025. I will be 48, and you will be 51 I believe. ;)


Take care,
Mike


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 Do you want to die of a heart attack when you can have a replacement
grown,
 or have a mechanical one installed? Do you want to be deaf when you can
have
 cochlear implants(which are on the market today)?

Will techno sound better through cochlear implants, and is there any way we
can download music to them?

Tristan
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Re: [313] LA Weekly Juan interview

2001-11-04 Thread Fred Heutte
The interviewer is *so* El Lay.  You've been doing raves since the
mid-'80s, starts one question.

Oh yeah, and trance more or less evolved out of techno.  Not more or
less.  *Did*.  As Juan zeroed in on, the question is what was taken
*out* when trace evolved from techno, not what was put in.

I would also dispute that Star Dancer is the blueprint for trance;
there are quite a few releases in my collection that predate it
(I was playing what we would now call trance in 1994 but quickly got
away from it, and though I like some of the old tracks the current
stuff turns my blood to mush).

I don't doubt Star Dancer had a significant impact on a lot of techno
and trance.  The problem, is, it's a better track than about 99.7% of
trance, so if it was a blueprint, nobody was paying much attention to
the overall picture.

What I think Juan is getting at here is how influential Detroit has
been on all the electronic music of the last decade.  You could just
as easily focus on the influence of the Reese bassline in techstep
drum  bass.  You could also point out that techstep misses out on all
the other stuff that makes KMS' stuff so great.

What has happened over and over is that European producers have nicked
a particularly captivating sound from a Detroit record, and then
rebuilt an entire new genre out of it.  Over and over.  But what's
missing is that the great Detroit records are ensemble pieces of many
sounds knit together with subtly complex rhythm.  That's what makes
Star Dancer, a track that influenced trance, *not* a trance record.






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[313] Record Sale

2001-11-04 Thread Christian Bloch
Due to my upcoming move to detroit I am selling off a huge chunk of quality
vinyl for those interested visit:

http://www.hum.auc.dk/~cblo99/sale.html

Thank you

Christian Bloch
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm

Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured



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[313] Record Sale update

2001-11-04 Thread Christian Bloch
just added 11 more records... sorry for the double post.
http://www.hum.auc.dk/~cblo99/sale.html


Christian Bloch
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm

Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured

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 Due to my upcoming move to detroit I am selling off a huge chunk of
quality
 vinyl for those interested visit:

 http://www.hum.auc.dk/~cblo99/sale.html

 Thank you

 Christian Bloch
 http://mp3.com/bloch
 http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm

 Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
 Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured



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[313] New (old) mix online

2001-11-04 Thread Gerald
Just noticed a mix of mine that's finally available.

It's from an event i was a part of 2yrs ago called M1 (a 54hr dj
marathon).
Anyways, it was my first attempt at playing on 3 decks - a few rough
spots, but what do you expect. 

The best part about the mix is the sound quality!
It's gotta be the worst i've ever heard. It was originally recorded onto
a VHS tape, then transferred onto someones hard drive. So, for all you
tape hiss lovers... but it just isn't the tape hiss, there's also these
weird clicks here and there + level drops. Enough of my ramblings...
hope you get the picture.

Here's the Real Audio link: http://www.technologix.org/ram/m1/matrix.ram

I was so surprised about the find - i had to share it with someone.

Cheers!

G

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