(313) ReKlein On-line
Our music crosses the boundaries of many genres resulting in something we'd like to think often defies categorization. If you get a chance, please check out our new material at: http://reklein.iuma.com ... and let us know what you think. Thanks. REK
(313) DE Jukebox - New Promotion for Detroit Music
Have a CD and looking for good exposure? Here's a unique opportunity to promote your music! The next and future CD issue of Detroit Entertainment will premier a new feature...The DE Jukebox! Instead of hearing the usual background tracks while browsing the system, the Jukebox will now allow the reader to select tracks from various Detroit artists. For each track, a more info button bring up a popup window that will include: - A full color promo photo - A brief one paragraph bio - Full contact info - A link to any available website Your promo will not only be on the CD (now available at various area retailers), but also the DE website. Afterwards, your promo will be placed on the upcoming Detroit Exposed website for future exposure. The cost? Only $50 Acceptable format: MP3 and digital imagery on disk, media CD or via email (Audio CDs are accepted, but a conversion charge will apply) Have a music video? We can include it too at no extra cost! Acceptable format: MPG/AVI/QT on disk, CD or email (DVD and VHS accepted, but a conversion charge will apply) Have questions? Feel free to contact us! Anthony Palacio Detroit Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.detroitentertainment.tv --- Subscribe to our free newsletter for notices on upcoming Detroit area video tapings, exclusive ticket contests, CD magazine previews, release party invites and more! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Recent promotion/ads on 313...
Anyone else bothered by these two recent spams? ReKlein? What the f*ck? ReKlein continues to define new directions in Electronic music combining elements of IDM, Intelligent Techno, House, Ambient and Hip Hop with classic progressive rock of a bygone era. Maybe it'd be better appreciated on the Rick Wakeman email list. DE Jukebox - New Promotion for Detroit Music Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. MEK
RE: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313...
My apologies if it offended or was viewed as spam...my intent was to help promote and support local music. Anthony Palacio Detroit Entertainment http://www.detroitentertainment.tv Digital Vision Syndicate http://www.dvsyndicate.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:07 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313... Anyone else bothered by these two recent spams? ReKlein? What the f*ck? ReKlein continues to define new directions in Electronic music combining elements of IDM, Intelligent Techno, House, Ambient and Hip Hop with classic progressive rock of a bygone era. Maybe it'd be better appreciated on the Rick Wakeman email list. DE Jukebox - New Promotion for Detroit Music Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. MEK
(313) New Techno Night - London
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Re: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313...
Apparently just you. Little uptight? Quite a bit of off topic content here. At least this was related to music. I had no issues with it. Just my opinion though KonTroll - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:06 AM Subject: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313... Anyone else bothered by these two recent spams? ReKlein? What the f*ck? ReKlein continues to define new directions in Electronic music combining elements of IDM, Intelligent Techno, House, Ambient and Hip Hop with classic progressive rock of a bygone era. Maybe it'd be better appreciated on the Rick Wakeman email list. DE Jukebox - New Promotion for Detroit Music Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. MEK
RE: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313...
Michael Elliot-Knight: Anyone else bothered by these two recent spams? ReKlein continues to define new directions in Electronic music combining elements of IDM, Intelligent Techno, House, Ambient and Hip Hop with classic progressive rock of a bygone era. Maybe it'd be better appreciated on the Rick Wakeman email list. KonTroll: Apparently just you. Little uptight? Quite a bit of off topic content here. At least this was related to music. I had no issues with it. Just my opinion though KonTroll Me: I suspect ReKlein (that pun isn't designed to win friends is it?) is also KonTroll. I had to report KonTroll to the moderator as a little while ago, every mail I sent to the list was for some reason followed by some pointless mail saying 'KonTroll has recieved your msg and will respond soon' (like I could *give* a fuff whether he did or not!) My humble advice: Ignore such spam. One thing I've got a lot of faith in this list for is to know c**p marketing of c**p products when it sees them. k
(313) ReKlein
I think I heard that first track on Ceefax last night
RE: (313) Disco Top Tens
going through old posts... Here's ten that spring to mind. I don't know if I qualify as studious though :) Dexter Wansel Life On Mars Is it a Bowie cover ??? Gwendal
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
I remember that, for a while, the snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and druggy chords that later came to characterise trance had permeated deeply into more pure techno. That Access track would get played at proper techno nights and, for the first few months at least, no-one would particularly bat an eyelid. Now these techniques were all very effective on the dancefloor, and after a while audiences were demanding to hear that sort of stuff all the time. Some techno DJs I know pretty much capitulated, with snare rolls every five minutes, but they still saw themselves as being techno. Because this works better on the floor and is more popular with club audiences, said some of these guys, this is the stuff that will stick around. That noodly stuff you play isn't really techno at all! In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music. Another big aspect of techno (and early Chicago house/acid) and as such very often different from trance, is that techno tries to evolve, tries to bring something new, tries to bring something that has never been heard before, tries to trigger strong emotions in people by surprising them. Now for a time, snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and such were new and triggered these strong emotions in people and were part of real techno. Trance is much more oriented towards pleasing the audience, trying to bring something that people already like to hear, trying to produce sounds that the majority of the people perceive as beautiful, dreamy soundscapes. Techno has evolved on and moved to several newer levels. Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. Now of course it's all still music and not exact science, so there will be plenty of examples of techno with melodies and trance without, and good and revolutionary trance and bad boring techno. But generally speaking you can (I at least) see the broader distinctions. That's also why I don't want to stick to one genre and I really like certain trance records (although not recently ;-) )and dislike certain techno records. As the music evolved I evolved with it. I used to love the stuff from Misjah, later that of the Liberators, again later that of Adam Beyer, Gaetek, Marco Carola. But that's all in the past. When I listen to it at home, I still like the sound in a nostalgic kind of way. I would never play it out again though (or it should be some revival thing). Now, I'm more into deephouse, Detroit house and electro (as so many old F*cks like me), no idea if that will stay forever. What are these guys now? They're trance DJs. Basically there are two kinds of DJ's. The DJ that purely wants to please the audience and give them what they want to hear and what they like best. The DJ that has the clear need to be loved and the need to be popular. And the DJ who wants to bring the audience something new and surprising. Again, of course we are all a combination of these two profiles, but we are either on one side or the other. We all like to be on stage and get the cheers, but that is different from needing it. The first kind will not take any risks when playing and go with the flow of whichever is hot at the time. The second kind will explore the boundaries and set the new trends, but will never be as popular as the first kind. Trance DJ's tend to be more of the first kind, techno DJ's you'll find in both. Although there are enough trance dj's like Tiësto who genuinely love that music (whom I consider a good dj, although I totally gag on his taste in music) and who have not jumped on the bandwagon like Pete Tong and such who will just hop on the next one when it comes along . my 2 eurocents Joost
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
I remember that, for a while, the snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and druggy chords that later came to characterise trance had permeated deeply into more pure techno. That Access track would get played at proper techno nights and, for the first few months at least, no-one would particularly bat an eyelid. Now these techniques were all very effective on the dancefloor, and after a while audiences were demanding to hear that sort of stuff all the time. Some techno DJs I know pretty much capitulated, with snare rolls every five minutes, but they still saw themselves as being techno. Because this works better on the floor and is more popular with club audiences, said some of these guys, this is the stuff that will stick around. That noodly stuff you play isn't really techno at all! In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music. Another big aspect of techno (and early Chicago house/acid) and as such very often different from trance, is that techno tries to evolve, tries to bring something new, tries to bring something that has never been heard before, tries to trigger strong emotions in people by surprising them. Now for a time, snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and such were new and triggered these strong emotions in people and were part of real techno. Trance is much more oriented towards pleasing the audience, trying to bring something that people already like to hear, trying to produce sounds that the majority of the people perceive as beautiful, dreamy soundscapes. Techno has evolved on and moved to several newer levels. Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. Now of course it's all still music and not exact science, so there will be plenty of examples of techno with melodies and trance without, and good and revolutionary trance and bad boring techno. But generally speaking you can (I at least) see the broader distinctions. That's also why I don't want to stick to one genre and I really like certain trance records (although not recently ;-) )and dislike certain techno records. As the music evolved I evolved with it. I used to love the stuff from Misjah, later that of the Liberators, again later that of Adam Beyer, Gaetek, Marco Carola. But that's all in the past. When I listen to it at home, I still like the sound in a nostalgic kind of way. I would never play it out again though (or it should be some revival thing). Now, I'm more into deephouse, Detroit house and electro (as so many old F*cks like me), no idea if that will stay forever. What are these guys now? They're trance DJs. Basically there are two kinds of DJ's. The DJ that purely wants to please the audience and give them what they want to hear and what they like best. The DJ that has the clear need to be loved and the need to be popular. And the DJ who wants to bring the audience something new and surprising. Again, of course we are all a combination of these two profiles, but we are either on one side or the other. We all like to be on stage and get the cheers, but that is different from needing it. The first kind will not take any risks when playing and go with the flow of whichever is hot at the time. The second kind will explore the boundaries and set the new trends, but will never be as popular as the first kind. Trance DJ's tend to be more of the first kind, techno DJ's you'll find in both. Although there are enough trance dj's like Tiësto who genuinely love that music (whom I consider a good dj, although I totally gag on his taste in music) and who have not jumped on the bandwagon like Pete Tong and such who will just hop on the next one when it comes along . my 2 eurocents Joost
(313) question
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RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
I thought these were some fairly perceptive comments. This made me think, perhaps some of the divide we see in techno heads today, is occurring because many people have grown tired of the possibilities of non-melodic rhythm and texture based techno? It seems most people on this list now prefer what could be termed melodic techno of one kind or another. Of course this split doesn't hold true 100%, but I think in general one can see a split between the more melodic, and often slower techno, and techno which emphasizes rhythm and texture and allows only minimal amounts of melody. The interesting thing about this, I think you are clearly going to have to have quite different aesthetic criteria to judge a track without melodic content as good, as opposed to a track that does have some kind of melody. I am curious to hear what other people on this list think about this. Another thing I wonder, are tracks with melodies generally percieved as more soulful to the people on this list then tracks that have no melody at all? .dave -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise? In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music.
Re: (313) Recent promotion/ads on 313...
As I explained to Ken when he sent me an email privately about my autoresponder a couple of months ago I wasnt aware that my autoresponder was set on this account (I use it as the contact address on my site) I appologized and corrected the problem but apparently it has left some emotional scaring or something with Ken. So to you I once again appologize as well to anyone on the list that received the autoresponse. Jason KonTroll. I had to report KonTroll to the moderator as a little while ago, every mail I sent to the list was for some reason followed by some pointless mail saying 'KonTroll has recieved your msg and will respond soon' (like I could *give* a fuff whether he did or not!) My humble advice: Ignore such spam. One thing I've got a lot of faith in this list for is to know c**p marketing of c**p products when it sees them. k
(313) MUTEK_NEWS +++ FEBRUARY_2003 (bis) +++
- Forwarded message from MUTEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:59:21 -0500 From: MUTEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MUTEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MUTEK_NEWS +++ FEBRUARY_2003 (bis) +++ To: Recipient List Suppressed@ === MUTEK / Music, Sound and New Technologies === MUTEK_NEWS +++ FEBRUARY_2003 (bis) +++ * MICRO_MUTEK 7 ** PRIX ARS ELECTRONICA 2003 *** ORAL PRESENTS HUB MUSIQUES * ELECTRONIC MUSIC ENTREPRENEUR PROGRAM ** NEW DIRECTORY OF CANADIAN ELECTRONIC MUSIC = * MICRO_MUTEK 7 * = SATURDAY, MARCH 1ST 2003, 9 PM LE ZEST, 4200 Ontario East, Montreal As the prelude to its fourth edition, MUTEK presents MICRO 7 - a concentration of key electronic musicians from Montreal joined by rising micro house talent MATHEW JONSON who is the soul of the ITISWHATITIS label. This evening of sublime rhythmic experimentation and creative collaboration is presented in the context of the ESPACES ÉMERGENTS event. Line-up : EGG (Montreal) CRACK HAUS (Montreal) MIKE SHANNON (Montreal) MAT JONSON (Vancouver) THE MOLE (Montreal) CHAMPION (Montreal) Preceding the performance a meeting and discussion between the artists and the public will take place from 3 pm to 5 pm at American Can. TICKETS: 10 $, available at the door only (no advance sale) Info : 380-8111 - www.espacesemergents.com - www.mutek.ca ZEST : 4200 Ontario E, angle Pie-IX Blvd - bus 125 (Ontario St.) or Pie-IX Metro AMERICAN CAN : 2030 Pie-IX Blvd = ** PRIX ARS ELECTRONICA 2003 ** = MUTEK would like to draw the attention on the next edition of the Ars Electronica Competition, which takes place yearly in Linz, Austria. Since 1987, Ars Electronica tries to follow and reflect the tendencies and developments of different disciplines associated to electronic art. The prizes distributed in the context of the competition are considered as the highest recognition that exist in the field. Music is dealt within the Digital Musics category. Over the last few years this category has tried to progressively broaden its horizons in order to cover a larger spectrum of musical practices that make a creative and innovative use of new technologies (from electroacoustics to more evolved forms of electronic and techno music). The choice of the jury this year (which notably includes Alain Mongeau, artistic director of MUTEK) confirms this tendancy. It's in this context that we invite all artists that are interested in MUTEK to seriously consider this next edition of the Ars Electronica Competition. The more submissions they receive representing the different musical practices - including innovative beat based or dance oriented music that effectively transcends the common cliched majority of releases in a distinctive or provocative manner -, the better it will be to help these marginalized pratices to be taken seriously and to be appreciated for their just value. The music / media cultures that Prix Ars commonly recognizes includes a broad range of subgenres and approaches toward the electronic realm . It is hoped that the outcome of the 2003 edition will indicate to future forums that those working with pulse driven motion in digital sound can share an effective spotlight with those engaged in purely textural, abstract or free form compositions and installations. ++ Prix Ars Electronica 2003 - Competition For Cyberarts ++ The Prix Ars Electronica 2003 marks the 17th edition of the competition for cyberarts, which is organized by the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation (ORF), Upper Austrian Regional Studio, in conjunction with the Ars Electronica Festival. From the start, the Prix Ars Electronica has been conceived as an open platform for various disciplines in the field of digital media design at the intersection of technology, art, science and society. Accordingly, over the course of the years, it has repeatedly been renewed, in order to be able to take the rapid developments in the realm of information technologies into account. Since 1987 around 13,000 artists, scientists, researchers and representatives from the entertainment branch from all over the world have entered their works in the Prix Ars Electronica, thus formulating and commenting on the media developments of the past sixteen years. In this way, they have created a public forum for a highly productive discussion. At the same time, they have laid the foundation for a new, highly qualified media-theoretical exploration and investigation of computer art / cyberart within the sphere of contemporary art. Now for the 17th time, the Austrian Broadcasting Company, Upper Austrian Regional Studio, as the organizer of the Prix Ars Electronica, invites artists, scientists, researchers and developers to participate in
(313) new Christian Bloch album.
Guys, if you haven't yet listened to his Young American LP, available for download on http://thinnerism.com then do it now. He posted the link a couple of weeks back and I forgot all about it until today - thanks for reminding me Tristan. Very very beautiful tunes, and the album really gels. Thanks Christian. : ) Anya
