Re: (313) from tricia romano's "fly life" column in the new Village Voice
-- Original Message -- From: "The Armchair DJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >The one good thing about spinning techno is that you rarely get requests >(trainspotters don't ask, "Like, can you play more minimalist German techno, >please?" or "Do you have 'Strings of Life'?"). i actually got a request the other night when spinning records at a club from some girl who said to me "are you going to play some techno?" right after i finished played "nude photo" and "quetzal". i almost had a heart attack. tom andythepooh.com
(313) from tricia romano's "fly life" column in the new Village Voice
The one good thing about spinning techno is that you rarely get requests (trainspotters don't ask, "Like, can you play more minimalist German techno, please?" or "Do you have 'Strings of Life'?"). At P.S.1 on Saturday, Danny Krivit actually did play "Strings of Life," and it made the crowd happy. He also made me very happy when he played Galaxy2Galaxy's "Hi Tech Jazz," another old Detroit record. The sight of so many New Yorkers joyfully partaking in that by now foreign thing called dancing made me a little verklempt. I was also greatly moved by the hula-hoopers in the corner, the cute li'l children bopping around, and the obvious lack of truckers' hats and mullets. (Deep thought of the day: Apparently, the only way to get jaded nightcrawlers to a museum is to hold a party.) http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0329/flylife.php
(313) non planet -e planet e record pressings
Hi list, Does anyone know whether the vinyl version of the Paperclip People's "Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich" is a good one? I just read a single review that was posted on discogs and the copy mentioned there was not the best of pressings. Any further info would be much appreciated, Thanks in Advance, Wojtek
(313) Hailing from Istanbul
hello list, sorry for posting this but there is new radio station in Istanbul, Turkey launching in August/September 2003. my friends own the station and asked me if i could post this to the list:) if you are at all interested you can either contact me or my firend directly at the email addy below. sincerely mr. pink Dear Friends/Teachers/Musical Soulmates, Greetings from Istanbul. This is to let you know that we will be launching a brand new radio station namely DINAMO 103.8 FM in Istanbul during August. This radio station will solely dedicate itself to broadcast electronic/dance music for 24 exciting hours everyday. As you may already know Istanbul is going through the most musically prolific times of its recent history. With a vast and ever growing number of talented producers/dj's and it unique independent sound, the city is at the verge of becoming one of the most important centers for electronic music and lifestyle. Please take note that Turkey is a very young nation the median age being only 24. We are looking for currently available radio shows, dj mixes, promotional cd 's or vinyl that we could possibly syndicate out here. If you are interested in any form of co-operation please give us a shout at this e-mail address. Sincerely, Ali Sahinbas DINAMO 103.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dinamo.fm
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
"It is just good or bad music and it's a personal opinion when it comes to that even." "It's all techno - or house." "They brand themselves and their mindset - can be good or bad depending on how far you take it I suppose." Can I get some syrup for my waffles? ;D MEK Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org 07/15/03 10:59 AMSubject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London Well, I know I've put thing into categories before (electro vs. electroclash anyone??) but I'm stepping away from that attitude more and more. It is just good or bad music and it's a personal opinion when it comes to that even. If everything had to fit into defined categories then I doubt a record like "Techno: The New Dance Sound of Detroit" would be made today (at least by a major label). If you listen to that record - none of the songs really sound the same. There are tracks that sound similar to Chicago house, some are electro based, some are pretty wild electronic r&b tunes. It's all techno - or house. These categories serve more of a purpose for people to say "I am this - I am not that". They brand themselves and their mindset - can be good or bad depending on how far you take it I suppose. MEK David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 07/15/03 02:08 AMSubject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" >night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From >hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to >techno and beyond." > >That sounds like a *real* deep house set to me - anything else is just >scratching the surface (no pun intended) > Sheeet. Wish we could get more deep house sets like that in Sydney :-D I think your comment just further cements that in my mind I'm just not sure exactly what the hell deep house is since everyone seems to have a different definition. Perhaps thats what this thread is all about?? ;-) Although some days I'm not even sure what exactly techno is either. I guess at the end of the day its all either "good music" or "bad music". >but then again I'm 33 and I wear ear plugs in clubs (at least in this town >ha ha ha) > I'm 26 and I wear ear plugs. Does that make me old before my time? ;-)
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Well, I know I've put thing into categories before (electro vs. electroclash anyone??) but I'm stepping away from that attitude more and more. It is just good or bad music and it's a personal opinion when it comes to that even. If everything had to fit into defined categories then I doubt a record like "Techno: The New Dance Sound of Detroit" would be made today (at least by a major label). If you listen to that record - none of the songs really sound the same. There are tracks that sound similar to Chicago house, some are electro based, some are pretty wild electronic r&b tunes. It's all techno - or house. These categories serve more of a purpose for people to say "I am this - I am not that". They brand themselves and their mindset - can be good or bad depending on how far you take it I suppose. MEK David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 07/15/03 02:08 AMSubject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" >night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From >hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to >techno and beyond." > >That sounds like a *real* deep house set to me - anything else is just >scratching the surface (no pun intended) > Sheeet. Wish we could get more deep house sets like that in Sydney :-D I think your comment just further cements that in my mind I'm just not sure exactly what the hell deep house is since everyone seems to have a different definition. Perhaps thats what this thread is all about?? ;-) Although some days I'm not even sure what exactly techno is either. I guess at the end of the day its all either "good music" or "bad music". >but then again I'm 33 and I wear ear plugs in clubs (at least in this town >ha ha ha) > I'm 26 and I wear ear plugs. Does that make me old before my time? ;-)
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
-- Original Message -- From: Ryan Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >lamer good witty retort. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> From there I wandered around the corner to catch the last hour of Tom > Churchill's set... Glad you enjoyed it - good to see you on Sunday too! Managed to put the records back in order for once, so here's what I played - I know there was a tune or two you were asking about... Francois K - Looking At The Stars (Wave) Cesario Evora - Angola [Carl Craig mix] (BMG) I:Cube - Vacjack (Versatile) Pepe Bradock - 4 (Atavisme) Why Sheep? - Earthborn [Recloose mix] (Third Ear) Nutmeg - State Of Mind (Neroli) Unknown - Our Music (Our Music) Needs - Reminiscence (Clairaudience) Aroy Dee - Planets (NWAQ) Thomas Fehlmann - Andrea Is Delighted (~Scape) Ben Neville - The Norris Division Sucked (Telegraph) Melchior Production - Love Is (Playhouse) Fabrice Lig - Escape From Nowhere [John Tejada mix] (Raygun) Elijah - Ice2Go (Iridite) Drexciya - Black Sea (Warp) Dexter - I Don't Care (Klackson) Drug Punks - Drug [Morillo dub] (Sondos) Pastamusik - Charmin (Pastamusik) Luke Slater - Nothing At All [Console mix] (Novamute) Kemit Sources - Bor Dlan [I:Cube mix] (Versatile) World 2 World - Jupiter Jazz (UR) Los Hermanos - Tres b2 (Los Hermanos) Rhythim Is Rhythim - The Dance (Transmat) Somatik - Interaktion (Twisted Funk) Clara Hill - Here [Extended dub] (Sonar Kollektiv) Rick Wade - Big Foot (Music Is...) Swag - The Party's Over (Version) Freaks vs 012 - I'm An Angry Instrument (Wash House) Strand - Revival Tent (Tactile) Cargo on Sunday was cool - we listened to Fat Freddy's Drop while we ate dinner outside, had a boogie to Recloose, who was dropping some nice midtempo broken beat, house, hip hop and stuff, then headed over the road for the last hour or so of Co-Op, which was absolutely rammed with Domu tearing it up. Back-to-back CDR/dubplate action from IG Culture and Orin Walters finished the night off in style... Big shouts to all the 313ers I met over the weekend - and thanks for coming along on Saturday night. Extra big shout to the Brixton Techno Mafia :) Glasgow people - don't forget Titonton is playing at Higher Ground at the Riverside on Saturday night, and there's also a Traxx party at the Unit going on all night with myself, Simon Cordiner and Martin from Rubadub/Club 69 supplying the tunes... Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix/Allez Allez
Correct: Hit's such as 'Flesh & Blood'. That was the 'big' one. I believe top 30, in 82 or 83. The LP was 'Promises.' Also had one called 'African Queen' in 82 also. >-Original Message- >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:08 PM >To: Martin; Robert Taylor; 313 >Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix > > >>Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your >>Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and >>collaborated for ABC's new album. > >Shit ABC have got a new album?!?! Details pls! > >BTW someone needs to sample the reprise of 'Look Of Love' quick. Don't let >those stand-alone and emotional strings go to waste folks ... ;-) > >k >
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
>Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your >Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and >collaborated for ABC's new album. Shit ABC have got a new album?!?! Details pls! BTW someone needs to sample the reprise of 'Look Of Love' quick. Don't let those stand-alone and emotional strings go to waste folks ... ;-) k
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
I bet you a fiver you can't fit an Allez-Allez track or a Heaven 17 track into your Bleep43 set on Saturday Dan! ;-) And it's gotta be early H17. None of this dj-friendly properly sequenced stuff post 1982! Ken >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:44 PM >To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Martin; 313 >Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix > > >Nurse! > > >At 02:43 pm +0100 15/7/03, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >>Glenn Gregory used to be married to Sarah Gregory from Allez Allez who had >>hits like 'Promises' (which I've got somewhere and will have to dig out in >>the spirit of anorakism now I 've remembered ;-) Alas the >Gregorys divorced >>some years after. But who should Ms Gregory wind up doing artwork >for in the >>late 80's early to mid ninties? Why, only virtually all the >'detroit techno' >>pantheon, that's who!! >> >>Lookie here: >> >>http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/gallery/sg/ >> >>She also sung vox (IIN horribly M) on Carl Craig's lovely 'Sitting Under A >>Tree' from the cd version of 'More Songs About Food & Revolution' in 1997. >> >>Which proves my theory that it all comes back to techno in the >end. I thank >>you, and good night. >> >>k >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:41 PM >>>To: Martin; 313 >>>Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your >>>Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and >>>collaborated for ABC's new album. >>> >>> >>> >>>Claudia Brucken was the singer from Propaganda, no? >>>### >>>## >>>Note: >>> >>>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >>>necessarily represent >>>those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >>>stated. This email >>>and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for >>>the use of the >>>individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have >>>received this email in >>>error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>Thank You. >>>### >>>## >>> >>> > >
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
Nurse! At 02:43 pm +0100 15/7/03, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Glenn Gregory used to be married to Sarah Gregory from Allez Allez who had hits like 'Promises' (which I've got somewhere and will have to dig out in the spirit of anorakism now I 've remembered ;-) Alas the Gregorys divorced some years after. But who should Ms Gregory wind up doing artwork for in the late 80's early to mid ninties? Why, only virtually all the 'detroit techno' pantheon, that's who!! Lookie here: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/gallery/sg/ She also sung vox (IIN horribly M) on Carl Craig's lovely 'Sitting Under A Tree' from the cd version of 'More Songs About Food & Revolution' in 1997. Which proves my theory that it all comes back to techno in the end. I thank you, and good night. k -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:41 PM To: Martin; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and collaborated for ABC's new album. Claudia Brucken was the singer from Propaganda, no? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
Glenn Gregory used to be married to Sarah Gregory from Allez Allez who had hits like 'Promises' (which I've got somewhere and will have to dig out in the spirit of anorakism now I 've remembered ;-) Alas the Gregorys divorced some years after. But who should Ms Gregory wind up doing artwork for in the late 80's early to mid ninties? Why, only virtually all the 'detroit techno' pantheon, that's who!! Lookie here: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/gallery/sg/ She also sung vox (IIN horribly M) on Carl Craig's lovely 'Sitting Under A Tree' from the cd version of 'More Songs About Food & Revolution' in 1997. Which proves my theory that it all comes back to techno in the end. I thank you, and good night. k >-Original Message- >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:41 PM >To: Martin; 313 >Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix > > > > >Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your >Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and >collaborated for ABC's new album. > > > >Claudia Brucken was the singer from Propaganda, no? >### >## >Note: > >Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >necessarily represent >those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >stated. This email >and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for >the use of the >individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have >received this email in >error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Thank You. >### >## > >
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and collaborated for ABC's new album. Claudia Brucken was the singer from Propaganda, no? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix
Martyn Ware and Ian Craig Marsh who left Human League formed Heaven 17 with Glenn Gregory who was a vocalist in their B. E. F. (British Electric Foundation) project. Their band name came from the novel "A Clockwork Orange". In their debut album "Penthouse & Pavement", the three with dandy suits style are illustrated. While Human League pursued pop, they created funky electro sound. "Temptation" is one of their best songs which hit the chart twice in 80's and 90's. Glenn Gregory did a duet with Claudia Brucken for the single "When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time", and released a dance-project single as Ugly, and collaborated for ABC's new album. 15/7/03 1:14 PM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm pretty sure that Heaven 17 came after the League. IIRC Heaven 17 were a > project of BEF, who in turn had splintered away from Human League before they > hit the bigtime. > > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:14 AM > To: Martin; 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix > > > >> I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs >> stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from >> 74-78 is... > > I wouldn't! ;-) . Although, I'm more familiar with the post 82 stuff - > what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Would this be even earlier > incarnations of Heaven 17 (which I believe included members of what later > became the League.) Any tracks you care to mention? > > k > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > ## > ### > >
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
I'm pretty sure that Heaven 17 came after the League. IIRC Heaven 17 were a project of BEF, who in turn had splintered away from Human League before they hit the bigtime. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:14 AM To: Martin; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix >I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs >stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from >74-78 is... I wouldn't! ;-) . Although, I'm more familiar with the post 82 stuff - what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Would this be even earlier incarnations of Heaven 17 (which I believe included members of what later became the League.) Any tracks you care to mention? k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Some History
Maybe this has already been mentioned, but a good number of The Future-era stuff has been recently re-released by them on a record named "Golden hour of the future", including the excellent "Dance like a star", also available with remixes on an EP... Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:37 PM > To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 > Subject: (313) Some History > > > Well before the League, they where called The Future, check > this site for > more info - this will help explain most of the history here > in Sheffield: > > http://www.blindyouth.co.uk/ > > Richard X put out all the old records on Black Melody... > > Dance Like A Star stands out... > > > what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? > Well it never gets mentioned does it, history cuts straight > to 81/82, which > is why I was asking about Ken and Greg, Alan Oldham plus Greg > Wilson from > the UK. I'm not interested in who was first - just the facts. > Every book > I've read doesn't seem to contain the info I need, and as you > start to cross > match a lot of it, it just doesn't add up. > > md > > > > > > > >> I've also been digging through all the old > League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs > >> stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from > >> 74-78 is... > > > > I wouldn't! ;-) . Although, I'm more familiar with the post > 82 stuff - > > what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Would this > be even earlier > > incarnations of Heaven 17 (which I believe included members > of what later > > became the League.) Any tracks you care to mention? > > > > k > > > >
(313) Some History
Well before the League, they where called The Future, check this site for more info - this will help explain most of the history here in Sheffield: http://www.blindyouth.co.uk/ Richard X put out all the old records on Black Melody... Dance Like A Star stands out... > what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Well it never gets mentioned does it, history cuts straight to 81/82, which is why I was asking about Ken and Greg, Alan Oldham plus Greg Wilson from the UK. I'm not interested in who was first - just the facts. Every book I've read doesn't seem to contain the info I need, and as you start to cross match a lot of it, it just doesn't add up. md > >> I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs >> stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from >> 74-78 is... > > I wouldn't! ;-) . Although, I'm more familiar with the post 82 stuff - > what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Would this be even earlier > incarnations of Heaven 17 (which I believe included members of what later > became the League.) Any tracks you care to mention? > > k >
RE: (313) Greg Wilson mix
>I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs >stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from >74-78 is... I wouldn't! ;-) . Although, I'm more familiar with the post 82 stuff - what's the deal with the mid-late 70s material? Would this be even earlier incarnations of Heaven 17 (which I believe included members of what later became the League.) Any tracks you care to mention? k
Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix
> That's all there is I'm afraid Robin, reminds me of summer days watching > people breakdance/pop. yeah me toochester in the early 80s :)breakers/bmxers/v.scared shoppers! > Also remember it was the first time I heard the word Hip Hop as well, Man > Parish track I believe...I've contacted Greg and I'll see if I can get hold > of some mixes but to me it looks like this guy was kinda important to the > scene here, never seen it mentioned anywhere before, which is like what > happened to the Twisted Wheel on the Northern Soul Scene. > I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs > stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from 74-78 is... cool, any sound files?...i'm aware of these people but have never heard much from em more old record shop digging i think robin...
Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix
That's all there is I'm afraid Robin, reminds me of summer days watching people breakdance/pop. Also remember it was the first time I heard the word Hip Hop as well, Man Parish track I believe...I've contacted Greg and I'll see if I can get hold of some mixes but to me it looks like this guy was kinda important to the scene here, never seen it mentioned anywhere before, which is like what happened to the Twisted Wheel on the Northern Soul Scene. I've also been digging through all the old League/BEF/Clock DVA and Cabs stuff, you'd be surprised just how techno some of the stuff from 74-78 is... md 15/7/03 10:33 AM robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> found a mix online at deephousepage.com >> >> http://www.deephousepage.com/gregwilson.htm > > > awww only 11 minutes of thismore needed!! did that link you posted > martin have the same sound file (i deleted the mail soz)? > > robin... > > >
Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix
> > found a mix online at deephousepage.com > > http://www.deephousepage.com/gregwilson.htm awww only 11 minutes of thismore needed!! did that link you posted martin have the same sound file (i deleted the mail soz)? robin...
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I think you're missing the point that when a dj crosses genre's then that just his "sound". A gig which crosses genre's is entirely different and usually has a pants trance room for the kids, a drum and bass room for the girls, a house room and a techno room, etc. This is off topic. We were talking how the gig was sh1t because *I* thought he played lame hip hop and the fact someone on a mic was chatting through everything. |-Original Message- |From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 15 July 2003 06:43 |To: Ryan Snowden; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:24:47 +0100, "Ryan Snowden" |<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: |> I thought it was very average in Manchester. If I wanted a hip hop |> gig I'd go to one. Is this what planet-e is pushing for? And he |> could have played |> some better hip hop too *snigger*. Apart from that, the |fact that an MC |> was |> talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs |> blowing smoke really made it an average night. And those curtains |> just did NOTHING |> except get in the way. Whats the point? | |On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:07:52 +0100, "Ryan Snowden" |<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: |> A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It |> must be a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be |> playing drum and bass. | |Well Mills plays disco and house as well as techno. Laurent |Garnier whilst being a techno/tech-house producer (to box him |in) plays anything and everything. I've seen him layup 155bpm |Roni Size records alongside Luke Slater records. | |The key is to playing good music, no matter what the genre. |Who says you can't play Sade next to T La Rock next to Common |Factor next to Drexciya? Throw the rule book out the window. |Are the tracks good? Yes. Does the transition work? Quite possibly. | |Unfortunately, some DJs are a little one-dimensional in the |attitude towards playing music, and those that can trascend |genres are typically better DJs IMHO. When I was younger, it |was detroit tech and nothing else. I gradually eased into |other genres such as house, and now I'll play whatever I think |will make people dance and be happy. | |I remember a night in Adelaide where HMC used to play for 6 or |so hours, and it would range from dub to minimal tech, vocal |house some electro, and whatever. Recloose the two times I've |seen him (as previously mentioned by a few other |Sydney-siders) laid down the full 9, hip-hop, broken beat, |house, electro etc.. Sure, you wouldn't put him on at a |straight up hip hop night, but put him on at a 'deep house' |night and it will work because he's the type of artist that |has a following of slightly older persons who are more |excepting to a little variet in their music tastes - as long |as it's off class, then it's all good. | | |-- | |Benn Glazier |aka DJ Royal |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 |http://www.royaltech.net |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
lamer |-Original Message- |From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 15 July 2003 09:12 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |-- Original Message -- |From: Ryan Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | |>Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might |>attract a crowd. | |the amount of death metal that draws heavily from classical |music is pretty large. youre just showing your weak minded |musical view. anyway, ive played classical records in sets |with alot of "techno". ive played hiphop records too. and ive |played metal and punk records mixed with breakcore (for ed |luna down in columbus even, accidentily got him moshing to |"waiting room" by fugazi). on thursday night i played a set |that went from detroit house to disco to techno to hiphop to |dub, non-mixed half of it, and heads loved it and filled the |dancefloor the whole time. phooey on you. | |tom | | |andythepooh.com | | | | |
Re: (313) Liquid Liquid
Who's going tonight.. Got my ticket already.. Abit steep for a Tuesday night but hey.. Might never get tro see them again... Placid -- http://www.acid-house.net Everything you wanted to know about acid house On 14/7/03 10:40 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They sure did- the club night they were playing at was called "Optimo", > named in their honour i believe. The percussion playing was all hot- > marimbas, xylophone, timbale and more. > > Jason > > > > On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 11:36 am, Placid wrote: > >> I cant wait to see them.. I got their 3 biggest ep's on 99 did they >> do >> 'optiumo' >> >> I'm sure bell head has been lifted on enough tracks.. The cow bells >> are v >> fam,iliar... >> >> On 14/7/03 10:08 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >
(313) ELECTRO-FUN
Morning 313ers, Thanks for all the contacts yesterday, I thought I'd share some of the info with you, also check out the link, that will take a few of you back you back :) I also hope that it starts some good discussions... It's interesting that this DJ never gets mentioned, If you live in the UK and have been watching Trevor Nelson's Soul Nation a similar thing happened to the guys to ran The Twisted Wheel in Manchester, which was the home of Northern Soul - guess what! It didn't even get mention... http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/gregwilson1983.rm md ELECTRO-FUNK - WHAT DID IT ALL MEAN? Greg Wilson November 2002 Electro-Funk is undoubtedly the most misunderstood of all UK Dance genres, yet probably the most vital with regards to its overall influence. Central to the confusion is the term itself, which during 82/83 (before it was shortened to Electro) was specific to the UK. From a US perspective this music would come under a variety of headings (including Hip-Hop, Dance, Disco, Electric Boogie and Freestyle), arriving on import here in the UK, mainly on New York labels like West End, Prelude, Sugarhill, Emergency, Profile, Tommy Boy, Streetwise, plus numerous others. Just as Northern Soul was a British term for a style (or group of styles) of American black music, so was Electro-Funk, and, like Northern, the roots of the scene are planted firmly in the North-West of England. Although this has been documented in a number of books and publications down the years, often with a fair degree of insight, the subject is rarely approached with any true depth and attention to detail, the information all in fragments. Perhaps the main reason that Electro-Funk remains a mystery to so many people is because its audience was predominantly black at a time when cutting-edge black music (and black culture in general) was very much marginalized in the UK, and as a result essentially underground. To keep up to date with what was happening on the British black music scene in 82/83 youd have had to have been a reader of a specialist publication like Blues & Soul or Black Echoes. In the UK scheme of things Electro-Funk eventually took over from Jazz-Funk as the dominant force on the club scene, but not without major controversy and upheaval. The purists regarded electronic or electric (as they called it) with total contempt, rejecting its validity on the grounds that it was, in their opinion, not real music due to its technological nature (although Marvin Gayes Sexual Healing would put paid to that theory). However, as time went on and audience tastes began to change, even the most hostile DJs were forced to play at least some Electro-Funk. Despite all the resistance, the movement slowly but surely began to gain momentum, sweeping down from the North, through the Midlands and eventually into London and the South. The reason the Electro scene took so long to fully establish itself in the capital was down to the stranglehold the all-powerful Soul Mafia DJs held on the Southern scene. The Soul Mafia, with big names like Chris Hill, Robbie Vincent, Froggy, Jeff Young and Pete Tong, continued to play Jazz-Funk and Soul grooves (later referred to as 80s Groove). It wouldnt be until 84 that their virtual monopoly of the clubs, radio, and the black music press began to erode as a new order of music replaced the old, laying the foundations not only for Hip-Hop, but also the subsequent UK Techno and House scenes. As has often been said, Electro is the missing link of Dance music. All roads lead back to New York where the level of musical innovation and experimentation throughout the early 80s period was quite staggering. It wasnt one narrow style that never strayed from within the confides of an even narrower BPM range, Electro-Funk was anything goes! The diversity of records released during this period was what made it so magical, you never knew what was coming next. The tempo of these tracks ranged from under 100 beats-per-minute to over 130, covering an entire rhythmic spectrum along the way. There was no set template for this new Dance direction, it just went wherever it went and took you grooving along with it. It was all about stretching the boundaries that had begun to stifle black music, and its influences lay not only with German Technopop wizards Kraftwerk, the acknowledged forefathers of pure Electro, plus British Futurist acts like the Human League and Gary Numan, but also with a number of pioneering black musicians. Major artists like Miles Davis, Sly Stone, Herbie Hancock, Stevie Wonder, legendary producer Norman Whitfield and, of course, George Clinton and his P Funk brigade, would all play their part in shaping this new sound via their innovative use of electronic instruments during the 70s (and as early as the late 60s in Miles Daviss case). Once the next generation of black musicians finally got their hands on the available technology it was bound to lead to a musical revolution as they
RE: (313) good life
> i wonder if this was the same version stacey pullen played in > melbourne a few weeks ago - sounds like it might be. it was > pretty cool. There is a stacey pullen rmx on the flip of the disc with the carl craig rmx from memory - not sure if that would be the one - Ive not listened to it in bloody ages so cant really remem what its like :/ Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
-- Original Message -- From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >But I guess I could see how I might be disappointed if I went hoping to hear some Detroit style sounds and got hiphop which I get to hear constantly. i think ryan should email mr recloose and let him know that his artistic vision of what a deejay set should sound like just isnt living up to his expectations, and that he should play more "house". i know id love to receive an email like that from someone. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
-- Original Message -- From: Ryan Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I don't see what broad mindedness has to do with people going along to see >recloose, a house producer on a primarily house record label and expecting >to hear house. okay, by "house", which planet e records are you talking about? do you mean the detroit experiment? or the innerzone orchestra? or the 4th wave record? or maybe their release of the 2000 black LP "the good good"? wait you must mean the quadrant record. or maybe that new tres demented. no wait, i know, youre referring to "dencity", "dislocate", "procession", "M.I.A.", "absence of one", "cardiology", "landscaping", and "insomnia in dub", all tunes by recloose, none of which resemble "house" music in any way shape or form. in case you werent counting, recloose's material (all released on planet e of course) is a track or two away from 50% downtempo in a hiphop/dub stylee. so are you just not paying attention or what? tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
-- Original Message -- From: Ryan Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might >attract a crowd. the amount of death metal that draws heavily from classical music is pretty large. youre just showing your weak minded musical view. anyway, ive played classical records in sets with alot of "techno". ive played hiphop records too. and ive played metal and punk records mixed with breakcore (for ed luna down in columbus even, accidentily got him moshing to "waiting room" by fugazi). on thursday night i played a set that went from detroit house to disco to techno to hiphop to dub, non-mixed half of it, and heads loved it and filled the dancefloor the whole time. phooey on you. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to techno and beyond." That sounds like a *real* deep house set to me - anything else is just scratching the surface (no pun intended) Sheeet. Wish we could get more deep house sets like that in Sydney :-D I think your comment just further cements that in my mind I'm just not sure exactly what the hell deep house is since everyone seems to have a different definition. Perhaps thats what this thread is all about?? ;-) Although some days I'm not even sure what exactly techno is either. I guess at the end of the day its all either "good music" or "bad music". but then again I'm 33 and I wear ear plugs in clubs (at least in this town ha ha ha) I'm 26 and I wear ear plugs. Does that make me old before my time? ;-)
(313) kent
holler at me when you get a chance.
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:24:47 +0100, "Ryan Snowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I thought it was very average in Manchester. If I wanted a hip hop gig > I'd > go to one. Is this what planet-e is pushing for? And he could have > played > some better hip hop too *snigger*. Apart from that, the fact that an MC > was > talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs > blowing > smoke really made it an average night. And those curtains just did > NOTHING > except get in the way. Whats the point? On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:07:52 +0100, "Ryan Snowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It must > be > a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and > bass. Well Mills plays disco and house as well as techno. Laurent Garnier whilst being a techno/tech-house producer (to box him in) plays anything and everything. I've seen him layup 155bpm Roni Size records alongside Luke Slater records. The key is to playing good music, no matter what the genre. Who says you can't play Sade next to T La Rock next to Common Factor next to Drexciya? Throw the rule book out the window. Are the tracks good? Yes. Does the transition work? Quite possibly. Unfortunately, some DJs are a little one-dimensional in the attitude towards playing music, and those that can trascend genres are typically better DJs IMHO. When I was younger, it was detroit tech and nothing else. I gradually eased into other genres such as house, and now I'll play whatever I think will make people dance and be happy. I remember a night in Adelaide where HMC used to play for 6 or so hours, and it would range from dub to minimal tech, vocal house some electro, and whatever. Recloose the two times I've seen him (as previously mentioned by a few other Sydney-siders) laid down the full 9, hip-hop, broken beat, house, electro etc.. Sure, you wouldn't put him on at a straight up hip hop night, but put him on at a 'deep house' night and it will work because he's the type of artist that has a following of slightly older persons who are more excepting to a little variet in their music tastes - as long as it's off class, then it's all good. -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
(313) bug drums
i'd bet my bippy that they aren't sampled from sun ra. they sound far too well recorded :^)
Re: (313) 313 techno gear list - found it thanks
nevermind I found it Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 07/14/03 10:17 PMSubject: (313) 313 techno gear list what is the sub info for the techknow list? MEK
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
"The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to techno and beyond." That sounds like a *real* deep house set to me - anything else is just scratching the surface (no pun intended) but then again I'm 33 and I wear ear plugs in clubs (at least in this town ha ha ha) MEK David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: cc: 313@hyperreal.org 07/14/03 06:42 PMSubject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London Ryan Snowden wrote: >Cr4p to that. > >If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip >hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half > Have you seen Recloose dj at all before?? He's always far from being just a "deep house dj". The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to techno and beyond.
(313) 313 techno gear list
what is the sub info for the techknow list? MEK
(313) Recloose
"Its funny you should ask
I helped promote Recloose and common factor back in 2001 at a gig called
Raw
Funk, also villalobos, eddie flashin fowlkes, heiko laux, alexander
kowalski, isolee.
Promoters should know if they're coming or going - not just shove on a gig
which cross-covers music genre's. You're a sell out promoter who's just
trying to get punters if you start doing a sankeys."
Are you the Ryan from Perth? If not, apologies in advance. If so, I also
was involved with these parties, and they (like perth gigs in general)
don't cross genre's at all - bar whats being done at the Inglewood these
days. This IMO, is the reason Melbourne, and Sydney to a small extent,
holds the interest of a vast range of punters just looking for good quality
music. As previosly discussed, better than flanking a wall with one hand
stroking your chin and the other taking notes on 8 hours of 4/4. I remember
Reclooose playing at Plastic People in London in 2001. (maybe late 2000)
and he tore the place apart with an eclectic mix of everything - in my eyes
- doing what he does best. Hip hop/soul/broken/house/etc. More recently I
have heard him play a solid set, predominantly house driven. Just as
outstanding. I don't think you can fault the guy's ear at all. Like wise
with Theo at Home in 2000 on the Trackmode tour. Mixing such a broad
spectrum of disco and soul with the likes of Dan Ryan in the middle just
blows people away.
I don't think these promoter's are "just shoving on" gigs at all. That's a
pretty one eyed view. These kind of gigs offer something else - thats all.
Cheers, Dave
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(313) 313 ringtones in RTTTL format?
i just got a new phone, a nokia 3390. i can convert rtttl format tones (the most common) into the format that my 3390 takes. does anyone have any classic detroit melodies in rtttl or otherwise? -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
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