(313) Erik Van den Broek info
I recently discovered his DAP and Shiver labels and was wondering what he is up to today seems the last output I can find is a drum and bass record from '99 on the Acetate label is he on the lowlands mailing list? is that still around? really like his acid techno house tracks - cool sh*t MEK
Re: (313) Work posts and blank
LOL Exam time actually that's a great question I'd have to say that Detroit Techno and House is really good because it has the ability to tap into and extract some deep and personal emotions without being magniloquent and flatulent. It continues a musical tradition that has carried through the blues and jazz - blue notes, bent pitches, polyrhythms, syncopation, etc. but push it forward into the future with new technology. Even still, it translates back into traditional forms - the orchestrated version of Jaguar is a good example. All the tension is still there without any advanced technological instruments. It's timeless (for the most part). It has soul because those above elements somehow have the ability to speak to the soul. There is both sorrow and great hope and joy in the music. But the joy is not the syrupy type you find in many other styles of music. It's rooted in the sorrow. It knows joy because it knows the sadness. Plus you can dance to it without being all pilled up;) I think Detroit Techno and House should be sold next to James Brown, Al Green, Sun Ra, Thelonious Monk, Robert Johnson, Mahalia Jackson, and Kraftwerk of course. when will our grades be posted? MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Work posts and blank 12/10/03 07:29 PM WOW finally sorted out my e-mail after 4 years so I can post to the 313 from work!!! But I'll probably just lurk as normal :) err... to keep on topic um, Detroit Techno and House is really good because blank what's your blank on this subject? Maxim
Re: (313) Work posts and blank
I read somewhere (hmmm- Generation Ecstasy maybe?) that Trance music (with a capital T) sounds as if it is formulated on a grid system and is very regimented. Nothing is out of place and events happen in a grid-like pattern. Where as house and techno (and I'd put the emphasis on Detroit and D influenced) is much less so and there is space for improvisation and the unexpected. I think it was Reyolds who actually wrote the passage I'm thinking of - I'll see if I can dig it up MEK Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/03 08:12 PMSubject: Re: (313) Work posts and blank LOL Exam time actually that's a great question I'd have to say that Detroit Techno and House is really good because it has the ability to tap into and extract some deep and personal emotions without being magniloquent and flatulent. It continues a musical tradition that has carried through the blues and jazz - blue notes, bent pitches, polyrhythms, syncopation, etc. but push it forward into the future with new technology. Even still, it translates back into traditional forms - the orchestrated version of Jaguar is a good example. All the tension is still there without any advanced technological instruments. It's timeless (for the most part). It has soul because those above elements somehow have the ability to speak to the soul. There is both sorrow and great hope and joy in the music. But the joy is not the syrupy type you find in many other styles of music. It's rooted in the sorrow. It knows joy because it knows the sadness. Plus you can dance to it without being all pilled up;) I think Detroit Techno and House should be sold next to James Brown, Al Green, Sun Ra, Thelonious Monk, Robert Johnson, Mahalia Jackson, and Kraftwerk of course. when will our grades be posted? MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Work posts and blank 12/10/03 07:29 PM WOW finally sorted out my e-mail after 4 years so I can post to the 313 from work!!! But I'll probably just lurk as normal :) err... to keep on topic um, Detroit Techno and House is really good because blank what's your blank on this subject? Maxim
Re: (313) Work posts and blank
here's a great passage from Deep Blues by Robert Palmer that I think can be applied to Detroit techno house Here he is addressing blue notes This is the expressive core of the hollers, work songs, spirituals that have not been substantially influenced by white church music, and later the blues, especially Delta blues. You can hear it, or suggestions of it, in African vocal music from Senegambia to the Congo, and it has special significance among the Akan-speaking people of Ghana, who suffered the depredations of English and American slavers through most of the period of the slave trade. Akan is a pitch-tone language in which rising emotion is expressed by falling pitch, and in Akan song rising emotion is often expressed by flattening the third. There seems to be a direct continuity between this tendency and blues singing, for blues singers habitually use falling pitches to raise the emotional temperature of a performance. Usually these falling pitches are thirds, but Muddy Waters and other vocalists and guitarists from the Delta tradition also employ falling fifths, often with shattering emotional effect. It's not a great leap to follow the tradition - MEK
Re: (313) U.S. Distribution?
Probably because so many distributors have gone under this year. It's been a terrible year for business in that dept. -- From: O.L. From The Basement [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) U.S. Distribution? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 5:51 PM Why haven't the following vinyl releases become available in the U.S.: V/A Electron Music (Iridite Productions) Fabrice Lig Roots Of The Future 6-trk Mini LP (Raygun) Starfighterz 4 Flavourz Of A 2-Sided Story (Delsin) I did see the Fabrice Lig on one U.S. record shop website but it was here today and gone tomorrow. I have only seen them on Nuloop, Rushhour, and Clone. Orrin
(313) re: Erik Van den Broek info
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:05:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently discovered his DAP and Shiver labels and was wondering what he is up to today seems the last output I can find is a drum and bass record from '99 on the Acetate label is he on the lowlands mailing list? is that still around? really like his acid techno house tracks - cool sh*t MEK Good question. Yes, his Whoo Part Twoo (as Essit Muzique) on The Netherlands' Dance Arena still sounds great. Andrew Duke out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://cognitionaudioworks.com
(313) DOW/Terrence Dixon was re: Hard Sync 1, 2 and 3
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:53 -0500, Dan Kurzius wrote: I promised some of you I'd get the old hard sync issues online sometime back, but do to a crazy work schedule I'm just now getting around to it. For those interested you can now find the first 3 here http://www.latenightessentials.com/sync/ I'll be adding more over the next couple of days with the hopes of having them all up by the end of this year. If you're not familiar with the zine, here's a quick run down on each issue: Sampler Issue Mainly containing record reviews, the sampler issue was created to work out format and layout ideas. Gerard came up with the name and Dan the layout. http://www.latenightessentials.com/sync/sampler.phtml Vol 1 Issue 1 The first official issue, packed full of more reviews and a one on one with Detroit's Dan Bell (aka DBX). With this issue we also welcomed aboard Sean Deason of Matrix Records and Andrew Duke of Cognition Audioworks to help out with record reviews. http://www.latenightessentials.com/sync/vol_1.phtml Vol 1 Issue 2 Number 2 hits the streets and we couldn't have been any more excited that Richie Hawtin agreed to be our featured artist. Plus even more reviews... http://www.latenightessentials.com/sync/vol_2.phtml Enjoy dK I was just checking out the scans of Issue 3 and the Utensil Records advertisement brought up some questions: What is Dave Whiteside (who operated Utensil Records and recorded a brilliant record as DOW) up to these days? And what is Terrence Dixon up to these days? Looking at my chart in that issue (some weird typos in there, Dan!), I noticed that I had charted one of my tracks called Doppler Effect (remember now that Fred Gianelli really liked that one), which is sorta cool now because I titled that song that well before I ever heard (and fell in love with) a certain Detroit act called Dopplereffekt! Fond memories there, Dan, thanks for taking the time to put those scans up. Take care. Andrew Duke out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://cognitionaudioworks.com
(313)Old Detroit radio online?
My girlfriend, suffering under the heat of a humid Sydney day, has been on the phone to her family this morning and for some strange reason is missing the snow and cold of detroit. Does anyone know of any old detroit radio show mixes from the 80s online? electrifiying mojo would be great, but any radio shows with an ad for 'mel far superstar'(sp?) would probably cheer her up. james
Re: (313)Old Detroit radio online?
That's hilarious. In Singapore where they have no seasons, just endless summer, they have snow drops in Orchard Rd near Christmas and snowy Christmas scenes on the screens in the Orchard Rd Internet place... plus a Snow Theme park where you can go for the novelty of the 'br'. ;) Cheer her up by telling her she's beautiful and how skinny she is AND buying her records, make-up and clothes on Oxord St. Trust me, that's all 313 techno loving women want in life. ;) -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313)Old Detroit radio online? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 3:53 PM My girlfriend, suffering under the heat of a humid Sydney day, has been on the phone to her family this morning and for some strange reason is missing the snow and cold of detroit. Does anyone know of any old detroit radio show mixes from the 80s online? electrifiying mojo would be great, but any radio shows with an ad for 'mel far superstar'(sp?) would probably cheer her up. james
RE: (313) Blaze - My Beat remixes
I agree 200% on that Michael. *Except* on Derrick Carter's mix! :-) That has got his killer, subtle Chi-Town compression just before the kicks and it rocks. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Blaze - My Beat remixes I've been listening to a few different mixes of this tune and I really have to wonder why would someone put a basic plodding 4 beat without any accents under a vocal that says as we dance to a beat that seems out of time to the one you feel in the metronome of your mind - does it offend you that our rhythm looks strange or causes your thinking to be rearranged and then follows up with so as you struggle to catch the rhythm with your feet ask yourself can you dance to my beat yeah I can but I don't want to because your beats are so damn pedestrian/vanilla - I wish these people would actually put some thought into these remixes instead of just laying down some boring thud thud thud beat and think that a deep house tune underneath is going to cut it - a message to any future remixers of My Beat - listen to the lyrics and then do something as dynamic as the original that reflects the message of the tune! MEK
RE: (313) Work posts and blank
Thx Michael. I need to look into Palmer's thought's (and maybe earlier sounds) as he was obviously a very knowledgeable bloke. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:38 AM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Work posts and blank here's a great passage from Deep Blues by Robert Palmer that I think can be applied to Detroit techno house Here he is addressing blue notes This is the expressive core of the hollers, work songs, spirituals that have not been substantially influenced by white church music, and later the blues, especially Delta blues. You can hear it, or suggestions of it, in African vocal music from Senegambia to the Congo, and it has special significance among the Akan-speaking people of Ghana, who suffered the depredations of English and American slavers through most of the period of the slave trade. Akan is a pitch-tone language in which rising emotion is expressed by falling pitch, and in Akan song rising emotion is often expressed by flattening the third. There seems to be a direct continuity between this tendency and blues singing, for blues singers habitually use falling pitches to raise the emotional temperature of a performance. Usually these falling pitches are thirds, but Muddy Waters and other vocalists and guitarists from the Delta tradition also employ falling fifths, often with shattering emotional effect. It's not a great leap to follow the tradition - MEK
RE: (313)Old Detroit radio online?
www.deephousepage.com -Original Message- From: Cyclone Louise Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2003 4:56 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313)Old Detroit radio online? That's hilarious. In Singapore where they have no seasons, just endless summer, they have snow drops in Orchard Rd near Christmas and snowy Christmas scenes on the screens in the Orchard Rd Internet place... plus a Snow Theme park where you can go for the novelty of the 'br'. ;) Cheer her up by telling her she's beautiful and how skinny she is AND buying her records, make-up and clothes on Oxord St. Trust me, that's all 313 techno loving women want in life. ;) -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313)Old Detroit radio online? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 3:53 PM My girlfriend, suffering under the heat of a humid Sydney day, has been on the phone to her family this morning and for some strange reason is missing the snow and cold of detroit. Does anyone know of any old detroit radio show mixes from the 80s online? electrifiying mojo would be great, but any radio shows with an ad for 'mel far superstar'(sp?) would probably cheer her up. james *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
(313) D.Wynn KMS mix
No James, don't think that last track on the cd is the 'Yennek' track. this one's quite garagey and has the lyrics to be without soul, in my life - anyone else got any clues about this or either of the other tracks ? chris. - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
(313) new tings
arrrgh!! anyone heard either of these?? LARRY HEARD - LOOSEFINGERS EP - US12'' [ALLEVIATED - ML 2221 - 23539] METROPLEX SOCIAL CLUB - HUBBLE EP - US12'' [PUZZLEBOX - PBX 8 - 23854] mmm. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) re: Erik Van den Broek info
For the record...did an interview with him not long ago.. www.acid-house.net.. Check the profiles section... placid -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 19:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: Erik Van den Broek info On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:05:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently discovered his DAP and Shiver labels and was wondering what he is up to today seems the last output I can find is a drum and bass record from '99 on the Acetate label is he on the lowlands mailing list? is that still around? really like his acid techno house tracks - cool sh*t MEK Good question. Yes, his Whoo Part Twoo (as Essit Muzique) on The Netherlands' Dance Arena still sounds great. Andrew Duke out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://cognitionaudioworks.com
(313) little carl craig mix
Hi all, here is half an hour of a carl craig mix recorded this weekend: http://music.rushhour.nl/rhradio/carl1.mp3 My question is: what is the wonderfull track he plays after maurizio - domina (carl craig mix)? It starts around 5 minutes and goes on till minute 8. It is really something special... it must be something new. It sounds like radiohead meets turtoise meets theo parrish.. doesn´t that make your mouth water? Thanks, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
Sounds like a sampled loop underneath and then into the track Alex - Although Andy Weatherall did do some remixes a long time ago - fantastic version of United - never did find out what happened to those. I've had loads of people ask me about Hot On The Heels since I added it to the last Dust Boys mix... 11/12/03 10:51 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com My question is: what is the wonderfull track he plays after maurizio - domina (carl craig mix)? It starts around 5 minutes and goes on till minute 8 I was listening too! I thought from your description maybe it was a new Rotating Assembley track - but it doesn't sound like it really does it. Also, he's playing throbbing gristle underneath it too for quite a while. (which then comes in after) - unless the track has a TG sample. but, yes, it's a nice track. check the hot on the heels of love edit as well. (straight after). anyone know who's edit this is? Carl's? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) little carl craig mix
Hi Martin, are you talking about the version of United that was on the first Sabres release, or did he do other remixes too? Cheers, Sean. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2003 10:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) little carl craig mix Sounds like a sampled loop underneath and then into the track Alex - Although Andy Weatherall did do some remixes a long time ago - fantastic version of United - never did find out what happened to those. I've had loads of people ask me about Hot On The Heels since I added it to the last Dust Boys mix... 11/12/03 10:51 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com My question is: what is the wonderfull track he plays after maurizio - domina (carl craig mix)? It starts around 5 minutes and goes on till minute 8 I was listening too! I thought from your description maybe it was a new Rotating Assembley track - but it doesn't sound like it really does it. Also, he's playing throbbing gristle underneath it too for quite a while. (which then comes in after) - unless the track has a TG sample. but, yes, it's a nice track. check the hot on the heels of love edit as well. (straight after). anyone know who's edit this is? Carl's? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
I've had loads of people ask me about Hot On The Heels since I added it to the last Dust Boys mix... I'm not surprised. it's HOT! UK innovation. who needs detroit? : ) check these men ( woman) out in their arran jumpers and farah slacks. we got the tracks, the style, the whole bleedin' lot mate. ; ) Although Andy Weatherall did do some remixes a long time ago I reckon thats an 'edit' rather than a mix - do you? There's a new edit on Music Box 5 bootleg comp that isn't so bad. edits. hmmm. too many. all unpaid for as well. I guess they're fun though. there's some Chris Cosey things dying for an 'edit' too. that would be nice for the clubs. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
Hi Martin, are you talking about the version of United that was on the first Sabres release, or did he do other remixes too? The one I heard was very different from the first Sabres but it was so long ago now I fear I may even be wrong :) A lot harder as well - I'll ask him... I'm not surprised. it's HOT! UK innovation. who needs detroit? : ) check these men ( woman) out in their arran jumpers and farah slacks. we got the tracks, the style, the whole bleedin' lot mate. ; ) I've always liked that track, Just doing a hard edit of Dance Like a Star by the Human League, techno circa 1974 :) Although Andy Weatherall did do some remixes a long time ago I reckon that's an 'edit' rather than a mix - do you? There's a new edit on Music Box 5 bootleg comp that isn't so bad. Yeah it sounds like it, I can almost see the edit points edits. hmmm. too many. all unpaid for as well. I guess they're fun though. there's some Chris Cosey things dying for an 'edit' too. that would be nice for the clubs. The way I see it, it can only help, the number of times I've gone out and bought an album because of it :) Not that big a fan of Chris and Cosey, Liked her painting more than the music... Martin
RE: (313) little carl craig mix
Not that big a fan of Chris and Cosey, Liked her painting more than the music... Strange, I would say the Hot on the Heels (which you like) was pretty much a blueprint for the Chris and Cosey sound. They certainly came closest to pursuing that sound out of all of the post-TG projects. Remember also, at this stage, Chris Carter probably had more musical input into TG than the rest of the band put together.
Re: (313) IR-002 Sound Clips (was Iridite 004- Electron Music)
All I need to complete the set is IR-002, anyone know where I can find sound clips on this one?... A1. http://www.veto.demon.co.uk/Audio/La%20Triste.mp3 B1. http://www.veto.demon.co.uk/Audio/Track%20Title%202.mp3 B2. http://www.veto.demon.co.uk/Audio/Day%2083.mp3 I've been diggin and Undercity distribution shows it is sold out... but you could always try and ask at Courthouse or Rubadub too. Btw That Fabrice Lig album also available at Courthouse. Since Undercity recently picked up Raygun and Indulge for worldwide distribution... should make it a h_ll of a lot easier to get all those magnificent release again! Dr. Nutcracker
RE: (313) little carl craig mix
Not that big a fan of Chris and Cosey, Liked her painting more than the music... Hey, yeah, you surprised me there too Martin! There's a song on the songs of love lust LP (might be wrong that title) that sounds so like Carl Craig circa more food and revolutionary art (except 15 years previous almost). beautiful stuff. how about if you get 5 mins you do us a top ten UK industrial tracks that sound like techno for us? that would be most welcome if you get a minute. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) carl craig quiz
sorry, back to the mix of carl craig's, I got a q or two. the 'song' after throbbing gristle - what is it, it's really bugging me, I heard it somewhere recently and can't remember what it is. Quite a famous song, fairly recent I think. also, the track after that, old thing, anyone know what that is? thanks! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
Not that big a fan of Chris and Cosey, Liked her painting more than the music... Strange, I would say the Hot on the Heels (which you like) was pretty much a blueprint for the Chris and Cosey sound. They certainly came closest to pursuing that sound out of all of the post-TG projects. Remember also, at this stage, Chris Carter probably had more musical input into TG than the rest of the band put together. Sure, but you get a horse to water but you canna make it drink :) I've tried, just never been in the mood... I also disagree about Chris, Sleazy played a massive party, and so did Gen... Martin
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
The way I see it, it can only help, the number of times I've gone out and bought an album because of it :) yes, I guess thats true. it's like the old downloading/home taping argument I suppose. I like the 'moxie' edits alot, also the 'automan' series is great, and the 'music box' series, although they always put too many tracks on one bit of vinyl. getting a bit out of hand though now! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) carl craig quiz
Just listening to it at the moment. It's Radiohead, but can't remember the name of the track. sorry, back to the mix of carl craig's, I got a q or two. the 'song' after throbbing gristle - what is it, it's really bugging me, I heard it somewhere recently and can't remember what it is. Quite a famous song, fairly recent I think. also, the track after that, old thing, anyone know what that is? thanks! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) little carl craig mix
I also disagree about Chris, Sleazy played a massive party, and so did Gen... Musically, I really don't think this is the case. Sleazy did develop his musical input over time, but was initailly really just there in a consulting role and was responsible for visuals, etc. Just how gifted Gen is musically is demonstrated by the awful standard of most PTV releases after Sleazy, Balance, Tibet, etc left him to his own devices.
RE: (313) carl craig quiz
Its Everything in its Right Place from Kid A -Original Message- From: Glenn McClements [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2003 11:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) carl craig quiz Just listening to it at the moment. It's Radiohead, but can't remember the name of the track. sorry, back to the mix of carl craig's, I got a q or two. the 'song' after throbbing gristle - what is it, it's really bugging me, I heard it somewhere recently and can't remember what it is. Quite a famous song, fairly recent I think. also, the track after that, old thing, anyone know what that is? thanks! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) carl craig quiz
Its Everything in its Right Place from Kid A d'oh. thanks everyone, I should have known that. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) little carl craig vs TG
11/12/03 11:50 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also disagree about Chris, Sleazy played a massive party, and so did Gen... Musically, I really don't think this is the case. Sleazy did develop his musical input over time, but was initailly really just there in a consulting role and was responsible for visuals, etc. If this is about who can play better, then yes Chris would win, but without Sleazy and Gen it wouldn't have happened and it wouldn't have been the same - both these guys are excellent instigators and ideas people, and boiling it down to consulting is, I believe, a bit of an insult. I've worked with loads of people that can't write or play a single note but man do they have the ideas - which if anything this more important, as it's easy to hire someone in. KLF would be a good example of this working method... Just how gifted Gen is musically is demonstrated by the awful standard of most PTV releases after Sleazy, Balance, Tibet, etc left him to his own devices. Again, disagree - I've worked with Gen, and he is very talented in the studio and is excellent at on the spot ideas as well as old tricks that can be used. Makes a good cup of tea as well! PTV have put out some excellent work fella - Force/Dreams are brilliant and Gen has does some excellent work without any of the above - of course this is purely subject and as I was kicking around with them a little bit one sided but I also like a lot of Coil/Current 93 stuff as well. If Fred G would have got his way back in the late 80's, PTV would have been a very different story... Alex, I'll dig out a load of old stuff and put a list together... Martin
(313) lunchtime special
lunchtime record of the day award goes to .. Loosefingers - Lamentation - Alleviated. hot stuff! I only flicked through, but lamentation is a more old style track, and the other two are more deep garage tracks, real nice. p.s. Martin, nice one! look forward to the list! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Hard Sync Magazine
Thanks Dan for putting this up on the site. It brought back a lot of good memories of techno geekdom. I remember picking up a copy at Rush Records. boy was I stoked to see reviews of new DBX records and this is where I first heard of labels like Sublime and Utensil as well as picking up Chicago records by Mike Dunn that I slept on. got a bunch of chuckles reading some of the reviews by yourself and Sean dance floor jacking not bathroom style haha! or Sean giving a record playing tutorial haha wait a MINUTE! It's backwards! What is this Satanism? Well, we'll just see about this! read the mag for the details hehhe minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING DEC JAN: East Island vs The Moderator dL011 Iridite Productions The Acceptable Face of Elitist Techno dL012 __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
(313) live electro in detroit, friday, dec 12, novamen and alex lugo
friday, december 12, 2003 -- 10 pm until? live electro from the NOVAMEN (bunker, murdercapital records -- the hague, NL) ALEX LUGO formerly one-half of Ultradyne COUNTER-COUTURE and Jan D (DJ set) -- entrance $7, beverages available or byo location: 2132 Michigan Ave., Detroit (across from the old train station, two doors west of LJ's lounge) info on website: www.viacirca.com questions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 313.319.1370
Re: (313)Old Detroit radio online?
Does anyone know of any old detroit radio show mixes from the 80s online? Would you take 1990? Go to http://www.AlanOldham.COM/ and grab the Fast Forward mixes ... they're fantastic. Of course, there's always the (downloadable versions of) The Wizard mixes on the DeepHousePage site (requires Real Player 8 or later): http://deephouse.biostat.wisc.edu/drivee/wizarddbwjlb1989a.rm http://deephouse.biostat.wisc.edu/drivee/wizarddbwjlb1989b.rm Or, if she just wants that late 80's Detroit flava (not necessarily a radio show mix), there's always the Derrick May Music Institute sets: http://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.rm http://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.rm - Greg
(313) the warhol: JOHN ARNOLD
the warhol: Good Fridays FRIDAY DECEMBER 12th 2003 THE ANDY WARHOL MUSEUM presents a live performance by Detroit electronic nu jazz composer/dj JOHN ARNOLD touring in support of his acclaimed new UBIQUITY RECORDS CD/LP Neighborhood Science www.ubiquityrecords.com/john_arnold.html www.ubiquityrecords.com/ur136.html Over the past few years John Arnold has risen to public attention along with a new wave of Detroit producers and artists. Neighborhood Science includes appearances from some of those peers like keyboard maestro and vocalist Amp Fiddler (of P-Funk All-stars and Genuine Records), vocalist and multi-talented musician Ayro (Omoa music) and producer and vocalist Malik Alstin (collaborator with Roy Davis jr). They just happen to be from around the way, and helped shape the John Arnold sound on Neighborhood Science, his debut album. My neighborhood is brimming with talent, we all live and breathe music. I really wanted to present this scene on my record, because it defines who I am, states Arnold. Neighborhood Science is an album that works in a club as well as at home but Arnold purposefully avoided making something more accessible for the sake of sales. Multi-layered soulful tracks retain an electronic edge that works on the dance floor and nods to the influence of dons of the Detroit scene like Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin, and Derrick May. When I listen to records for the first time it's as a DJ. I look for the tracks I can play out first. If I like an artist because they make great dance music and then they come out with a record that is far removed from this, I feel let down. I have always felt that dancing is a big part of experiencing music. Once people are dancing, they are open to anything you want to throw at them, explains Arnold. Within electronic music circles formally trained artists often struggle to reconcile their academic backgrounds and the unconventional DIY ethos of club culture, yet John Arnold's classical guitar education has expanded, not limited, his imagination. I was able to make this whole record in my bedroom with the help of some friends. And you have to understand how all the instruments fit together and how to play them of course. The training just gives me a wider pallet and understanding of music to work with. I think having the experience of working and understanding different instruments and music helped me produce a wide variety of sounds and colors, says Arnold. Carl Craig invited Arnold to perform his first-ever live electronic gig at the inaugural Detroit Electronic Music Festival (DEMF), and Derrick May, who picked up his Sparkle EP for Transmat Records' sister label, Fragile, asked him back to perform in 2003. He's released a second Transmat EP titled Four Minutes? has 2 singles out on Ubiquity, and jammed on records by fellow Detroit acts John Beltran, the Detroit Escalator Co and Recloose. Prior to John Arnold's live performance, local DJs John E. and Noah Nine will perform. All-Ages. Show starts promptly at 6pm. Ends at 10:00 pm. $3 Cover. The Andy Warhol Museum One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh 117 Sandusky Street Pittsburgh, PA 412 237 8300 www.warhol.org -- ___ http://www.ign.com Upgrade to Premium IGN Email - 15MB of space - No ads! - Pop3 Downloads Powered by Outblaze
Re: (313) little carl craig mix
Is that radiohead at around 12 minutes?
(313) amp fiddler album
its brilliant. really great soul music just cant be beat. the mix of superficial is different from the 12 mixes, and i think its different from the mix on that carl craig mix cd on react as well. anyway, its good sh*t, i highly reccomend it. new alton miller on track mode is decent too, not as good as the mahogani obviously, but good nonetheless. tom -- RIP jbible andythepooh.com
(313) When I sold my soul to the machine
When I sold my soul to the machine is the name of a documentary in the making about the techno/electro scene in Rotterdam and The Hague, there is not much online yet but you can see and hear clips from I-F, Alden Tyrell, DJ Technician, Overdose etc. For more info check: http://www.whenisoldmysoultothemachine.tk/ (in both dutch and english) KJ
(313) monolake in oz
Peeps Does anyone know if monolake is playing in sydney as well as in melbourne? Thanx p
RE: (313) monolake in oz
Yup. Foo Man Chunes are playing host to Monolake. I think it's next weekend at the Gaelic club. Also on the Sydney front - a few of us are putting a night on at the Sly Fox in Enmore tomorrow night. It's free and there are cheap cocktails and I reckon you stand a fair chance of enjoying the music as well. We start at 6 and are going till close (probably about 2 or 3am). Be great to see you there! Si -Original Message- From: Philip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 December 2003 9:19 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) monolake in oz Peeps Does anyone know if monolake is playing in sydney as well as in melbourne? Thanx p NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited.
RE: (313) Work posts and blank
Michael, Your answers remind me of the Gil Scott-Heron poem used on Moodymann's Amerika record--Bicentennial Blues. That line kills me when he says: The blues grew up, but America did not. How true Cornell West has also discussed the connection between African vocal traditions, slavery, blues, jazz, soul, He did an interview on Tavis Smiley's show a few months back where CW said something like: The blues has hope, not the pollyannic hope of pop music, but a mature hope, a blood soaked, tear stained hope. Well, I don't think I could explain any better what I appreciate about Detroit techno/house than that. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:38 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Work posts and blank here's a great passage from Deep Blues by Robert Palmer that I think can be applied to Detroit techno house Here he is addressing blue notes This is the expressive core of the hollers, work songs, spirituals that have not been substantially influenced by white church music, and later the blues, especially Delta blues. You can hear it, or suggestions of it, in African vocal music from Senegambia to the Congo, and it has special significance among the Akan-speaking people of Ghana, who suffered the depredations of English and American slavers through most of the period of the slave trade. Akan is a pitch-tone language in which rising emotion is expressed by falling pitch, and in Akan song rising emotion is often expressed by flattening the third. There seems to be a direct continuity between this tendency and blues singing, for blues singers habitually use falling pitches to raise the emotional temperature of a performance. Usually these falling pitches are thirds, but Muddy Waters and other vocalists and guitarists from the Delta tradition also employ falling fifths, often with shattering emotional effect. It's not a great leap to follow the tradition - MEK
