Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
oh come on, that was a pretty funny joke i think ;P

tom

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Come on Tom, let it go.  When you guys beef, neither of you show your
>  best side.  And in this particular case?  What they say in Iowa is,
>  the smaller the stakes, the bigger the beef.  It sounds funnier when
>  you say it out loud.
>
>  For the record, I've brought Fred to Iowa to play and people still
>  talk about it, and he was fun to be around, and in terms of techno
>  history, his place is indisputable.  Tom I have tremendous respect for
>  as well as a DJ and a music fan. I try and stay neutral in this thing,
>  but in a perfect world, Tom and Fred would keep their ill will off the
>  list entirely.
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  >  I support Gianelli
>  >
>  >  if someone made those, they would only need 2 girlie tees to cover
>  >  everyone who would want them. its the cheap route for sure.
>  >
>  >  tom
>  >
>


Re: (313) Model 500 Classics Reissue

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
they came back a year or two ago with a slew of vinyl represses and
some new things too, IIRC. there were many posts on here at the time!
they never did the full list of represses that they originally were
going to do, which is too bad as all the ones i wanted were not the
ones they actually did.

tom

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Southern Outpost
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought R&S went out of business years ago?
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Jacob Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Good to see R&S is finally starting some CD reissues:
>  >  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013K974G/
>  >
>  >  Anyone know what else is coming?
>  >
>  >  Jacob
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  underground music reviews
>  >  http://www.gridface.com/
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
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>  --
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>  Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
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Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread kent williams
Come on Tom, let it go.  When you guys beef, neither of you show your
best side.  And in this particular case?  What they say in Iowa is,
the smaller the stakes, the bigger the beef.  It sounds funnier when
you say it out loud.

For the record, I've brought Fred to Iowa to play and people still
talk about it, and he was fun to be around, and in terms of techno
history, his place is indisputable.  Tom I have tremendous respect for
as well as a DJ and a music fan. I try and stay neutral in this thing,
but in a perfect world, Tom and Fred would keep their ill will off the
list entirely.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  >  I support Gianelli
>
>  if someone made those, they would only need 2 girlie tees to cover
>  everyone who would want them. its the cheap route for sure.
>
>  tom
>


Re: (313) Model 500 Classics Reissue

2008-02-23 Thread Southern Outpost
I thought R&S went out of business years ago?

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Jacob Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good to see R&S is finally starting some CD reissues:
>  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013K974G/
>
>  Anyone know what else is coming?
>
>  Jacob
>
>
>
>  --
>  underground music reviews
>  http://www.gridface.com/
>
>
>



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(313) Model 500 Classics Reissue

2008-02-23 Thread Jacob Arnold

Good to see R&S is finally starting some CD reissues:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013K974G/

Anyone know what else is coming?

Jacob



--
underground music reviews
http://www.gridface.com/




Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I support Gianelli

if someone made those, they would only need 2 girlie tees to cover
everyone who would want them. its the cheap route for sure.

tom


(313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)

2008-02-23 Thread Frank Glazer
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Michael Kuszynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So when is someone going to post a design?
>
>  Really simple, just the list name I would imagine.  That's what I
>  would love to buy.
>
>  On 2/23/08, Klaas-Jan Jongsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > On 23 feb 2008, at 05:02, diana potts wrote:
>  >
>  > > Don't blame me, blame the moderator
>  >
>  > Now that did i do wrong here? ;-)
>  >
>  > KJ
>  >
>  >
>
>
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>  ---
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>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread Michael Kuszynski
So when is someone going to post a design?

Really simple, just the list name I would imagine.  That's what I
would love to buy.

On 2/23/08, Klaas-Jan Jongsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 23 feb 2008, at 05:02, diana potts wrote:
>
> > Don't blame me, blame the moderator
>
> Now that did i do wrong here? ;-)
>
> KJ
>
>


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Re: (313) marketing to the underground

2008-02-23 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
are you marketing this book to me?

;-)

MEK

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/23/2008
11:34:28 AM:

> recent discussions reminded me of the book "Unmarketable: Brandalism,
> Copyfighting, Mocketing, and the Erosion of Integrity" by anne
> elizabeth moore.
>
> "For years the do-it-yourself (DIY)/punk underground has worked
> against the logic of mass production and creative uniformity,
> disseminating radical ideas and directly making and trading goods and
> services. But what happens when the underground becomes just another
> market? What happens when the very tools that the artists and
> activists have used to build word of mouth are coopted by corporate
> America? What happens to cultural resistance when it becomes just
> another marketing platform?
>
> Unmarketable examines the corrosive effects of corporate infiltration
> of the underground. Activist and author Anne Elizabeth Moore takes a
> critical look at the savvy advertising agencies, corporate marketing
> teams, and branding experts who use DIY techniques to reach a youth
> market?and at members of the underground who have helped forward
> corporate agendas through their own artistic, and occasionally
> activist, projects."
>
> though the book is written from the perspective of someone who was an
> active participant in the "industy" that surrounded the underground
> punk scene and makes no mention of theo & addidas or ghostly & hummer
> or juan & ford or the general attempts at co-opting the underground
> techno scene by the mainstream beginning in the late 90's, it could
> just as easily have been written by someone who was an active
> participant in the underground techno scene instead (and be just as
> valid).
>
>
>
>
>



(313) marketing to the underground

2008-02-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
recent discussions reminded me of the book "Unmarketable: Brandalism,  
Copyfighting, Mocketing, and the Erosion of Integrity" by anne  
elizabeth moore.


"For years the do-it-yourself (DIY)/punk underground has worked  
against the logic of mass production and creative uniformity,  
disseminating radical ideas and directly making and trading goods and  
services. But what happens when the underground becomes just another  
market? What happens when the very tools that the artists and  
activists have used to build word of mouth are coopted by corporate  
America? What happens to cultural resistance when it becomes just  
another marketing platform?


Unmarketable examines the corrosive effects of corporate infiltration  
of the underground. Activist and author Anne Elizabeth Moore takes a  
critical look at the savvy advertising agencies, corporate marketing  
teams, and branding experts who use DIY techniques to reach a youth  
market?and at members of the underground who have helped forward  
corporate agendas through their own artistic, and occasionally  
activist, projects."


though the book is written from the perspective of someone who was an  
active participant in the "industy" that surrounded the underground   
punk scene and makes no mention of theo & addidas or ghostly & hummer  
or juan & ford or the general attempts at co-opting the underground  
techno scene by the mainstream beginning in the late 90's, it could  
just as easily have been written by someone who was an active  
participant in the underground techno scene instead (and be just as  
valid).








Re: (313) Todd Sines live + DJ tracklistings

2008-02-23 Thread Todd Sines

tresor:
Trait - bp_trk - Contact 009 1995
.xtrak - don't stop - YORE 1996
.xtrak - cut to the chase - YORE 1996
.xtrak - flada - YORE 2007
Todd Sines - thick satin - Frankie 2007
.xtrak - halfstep - unreleased 1996
Todd Sines - settle - unreleased Frankie 2008
Todd Sines - minhaus - Background 1999
.xtrak - Facc - Peacefrog 1994
.xtrak - scatter - unreleased 1997
Todd Sines - connect - Residual 2000
Todd Sines -  forward - unreleased
Todd Sines - eda - Background 1999
Todd Sines - rive gauche - Frankie 2007
Todd Sines - naa - Philpot 2004
Todd Sines - as of yet untitled + unreleased - Frankie
Todd Sines - coast - unreleased Frankie 2008
Todd Sines - elastic - Frankie 2007
Todd Sines - in_come - Frankie 2007
.xtrak - unreflect - YORE 2008
Todd Sines - in_come again - Frankie 2007


Form Bar
Justin Maxwell - Stegosaurus - Palette
Donk Boys - Cp Styre  [frankie rmx] - Frankie
Monty Luke & Tasho - Paranoid - Mothership
Robosonic - Die Verwandlung - Jesse Rose rmx
DJ Rasoul - Get Nasty - Uncut
Le K - Elefonk - Circus Co.
Les Cerveaux Lents -Le manége hanté - KARAT34
Melchoir Productions - The Hypnotist - Perlon
Daniel Stefanik - Orangefood
Mixdown [from beatport]
Todd Sines - thick_satin - Andomat 3000 rmx - Frankie
Rainer Weicchold - Bamboo - Great Stuff
Catz & Dogz - Fixation
White Lotus Society - Space Cadillac (Derrick Carter Dub)
.xtrak - don't stop - YORE
Paul Johnson - computers talk - Relief
Black Joy - Untitled [Solid Groove rmx]
Monolevel - MFF
Aardvarck - Just Washed That Pig
Simbad - 2 Nite's Da Nite
Mike Shannon - Burbuja Azul - Cynosure
.xtrak - multiplexor - 7th City
.xtrak - multiplexor [Geoff White rmx] - unreleased
Adonis - No Way Back - Trax
Losoul - Slow Like - Playhouse
Luke Solomon - Little Creatures [Timothy Shumaker's hairball rmx]
3 Channels - This is Your Sex [Frankie rmx]
Andy Vaz - You Got - YORE
? - Monopoly [Kenny Dope rmx]
Kerri Chandler - Bar a Thym

01:41:30  - Mastra / Sines tag team
?  - played by Mastra
House of Gypsies - Sume Say High - Freeze Records
?  - played by Mastra
Todd Sines - lex - unreleased Frankie 034
?  - played by Mastra
John Tejada & Justin Maxwell - Make You Like It - Palette
?  - played by Mastra
Matt John - unreleased
George Thomson - Laid Back Snack Attack - Crosstown Rebels
Hot Chip - No Fit State [Audion rmx]
?  - played by Mastra
Akufen - Polytrick - Background
?  - played by Mastra
V & Jill scott - Born Again (Boddhi Satva's Ancestral Soul Remix)



On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:10 PM, J.C. wrote:

Say, do you have any tracklistings for either/both of these??   
Great stuff.


Thanks!

On 20 February 2008, Todd Sines wrote:


I will be there. :)

live set from tresor:
http://www.toddsines.com/music/mp3/xtrak/ToddSines_LiveTresor.mp3

DJ set from Form Bar, Bern, CH
http://www.toddsines.com/mixes/ToddSines_FormBar_14Feb2008.mp3


+odd
--
On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

I am playing at the Bootleg in Rotterdam this saturday together  
with fellow listmember Todd Sines, feel free to join the party:

Saturday February 23rd
9Y Bootleg DJ Cafe: A Tribute to Motorcity
LIVE:The Moderator(DownLow, Eevonext)
DJs:Todd Sines(Planet E, 7th City, Yore), Bas roR(Kubra, AW-Rec),  
6Ft10(Bootleg DJ Cafe) &Clarence Brandon(Bootleg DJ Cafe)

Bootleg DJ Cafe - Rotterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.bootlegdjcafe.com





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Radio DJ:

http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php
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KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)






Re: (313) Shameless self-promotion - Todd Sines - tracklistings

2008-02-23 Thread Todd Sines

tresor:
Trait - bp_trk - Contact 009
.xtrak - don't stop - YORE
.xtrak - cut to the chase - YORE
.xtrak - flada - YORE
Todd Sines - thick satin - Frankie


Form Bar
Justin Maxwell - Palette
Donk Boys - Cp Styre  [frankie rmx] - Frankie
Monty Luke & Tasho - Paranoid - Mothership
Robosonic - Die Verwandlung - Jesse Rose rmx
DJ Rasoul - Get Nasty - Uncut
Le K - Elefonk - Circus Co.
totally can't remember
Melchoir Productions - The Hypnotist - Perlon
Daniel Stefanik - Orangefood
Mixdown [from beatport]
Todd Sines - thick_satin - Andomat 3000 rmx - Frankie
Rainer Weicchold - Bamboo - Great Stuff
Catz & Dogz - Fixation
White Lotus Society - Space Cadillac (Derrick Carter Dub)
.xtrak - don't stop - YORE
Paul Johnson - computers talk - Relief
Black Joy - Untitled [Solid Groove rmx]
Monolevel - MFF
Aardvarck - Just Washed That Pig
Simbad - 2 Nite's Da Nite
Mike Shannon - Burbuja Azul - Cynosure
.xtrak - multiplexor - 7th City
.xtrak - multiplexor [Geoff White rmx] - unreleased
Adonis - No Way Back - Trax
Losoul - Slow Like - Playhouse
Luke Solomon - Little Creatures [Timothy Shumaker's hairball rmx]
3 Channels - This is Your Sex [Frankie rmx]
Andy Vaz - You Got - YORE
? - Monopoly [Kenny Dope rmx]
Kerri Chandler - Bar a Thym

01:41:30  - Mastra / Sines tag team
?  - played by Mastra
House of Gypsies - Sume Say High - Freeze Records
?  - played by Mastra
Todd Sines - lex - unreleased Frankie 034
?  - played by Mastra
John Tejada & Justin Maxwell - Make You Like It - Palette
?  - played by Mastra
Matt John - unreleased
George Thomson - Laid Back Snack Attack - Crosstown Rebels
Hot Chip - No Fit State [Audion rmx]
?  - played by Mastra
Akufen - Polytrick - Background
?  - played by Mastra
V & Jill scott - Born Again (Boddhi Satva's Ancestral Soul Remix)



On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:10 PM, J.C. wrote:

Say, do you have any tracklistings for either/both of these??   
Great stuff.


Thanks!

On 20 February 2008, Todd Sines wrote:


I will be there. :)

live set from tresor:
http://www.toddsines.com/music/mp3/xtrak/ToddSines_LiveTresor.mp3

DJ set from Form Bar, Bern, CH
http://www.toddsines.com/mixes/ToddSines_FormBar_14Feb2008.mp3


+odd
--
On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

I am playing at the Bootleg in Rotterdam this saturday together  
with fellow listmember Todd Sines, feel free to join the party:

Saturday February 23rd
9Y Bootleg DJ Cafe: A Tribute to Motorcity
LIVE:The Moderator(DownLow, Eevonext)
DJs:Todd Sines(Planet E, 7th City, Yore), Bas roR(Kubra, AW-Rec),  
6Ft10(Bootleg DJ Cafe) &Clarence Brandon(Bootleg DJ Cafe)

Bootleg DJ Cafe - Rotterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.bootlegdjcafe.com





--
San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best  
Radio DJ:

http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php
AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.)

"Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of
KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)






Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 23 feb 2008, at 05:02, diana potts wrote:


Don't blame me, blame the moderator


Now that did i do wrong here? ;-)

KJ