RE: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.
That's absolute Gold! There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web now. His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend. Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is out of order. I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin. The Archiver On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site on Resident Advisor. If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first rate example. m On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by the fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian promoters and Lil Louis. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion... http://www.whoislillouis.com/ Enjoy! Patrick.
Re: (313) roll call?
hello, indeed. - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ] On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote: Hi there. Erik Cronin http://codine.com From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: (313) roll call? I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin. Anyone else? m50 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote: how many subscribers are left anyway? and will there be a 20 years anniversary party? Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef: btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good to be back!
Re: (313) roll call?
Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed, but still posting, just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record collection) so don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying and playing out P Sent from my iPhone On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube darkc...@datavibe.net wrote: hello, indeed. - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ] On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote: Hi there. Erik Cronin http://codine.com From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: (313) roll call? I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin. Anyone else? m50 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote: how many subscribers are left anyway? and will there be a 20 years anniversary party? Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef: btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good to be back!
Re: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.
Wow I had no idea those forums got that long in like, 2 days... Can't believe the publicist went public, if the promotors had hired lawyers LL should have got his own lawyers quickly onto it to shut it down and negotiate an outcome. On my quick analysis if it was unlikely that the promotors would get their $ back the best thing for them was to just go public and win it that way (even if it meant it showed how naive they were). Sadly, to recover $12000 by using lawyers is probably going to be a waste of $ - I can see a legal bill about $5000 at least (which would cover 10 - 15 hours work), totally not worth it. Even if they got judgment there is the question of how it could be enforced. On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, The Archiver thearchi...@thearchiver.netwrote: That's absolute Gold! There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web now. His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend. Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is out of order. I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin. The Archiver On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site on Resident Advisor. If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first rate example. m On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by the fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian promoters and Lil Louis. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion... http://www.whoislillouis.com/ Enjoy! Patrick.
Re: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.
Those poor promoters. They should have walked away much earlier, when the whole fiasco with the sorting out of who his official rep was. I know they say they're the types who do it for the love of the music but sometimes it is better off following the head and not the heart. Especially when there's thousands of other people's dollars at stake. MEK On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Mel N mymachines...@gmail.com wrote: Wow I had no idea those forums got that long in like, 2 days... Can't believe the publicist went public, if the promotors had hired lawyers LL should have got his own lawyers quickly onto it to shut it down and negotiate an outcome. On my quick analysis if it was unlikely that the promotors would get their $ back the best thing for them was to just go public and win it that way (even if it meant it showed how naive they were). Sadly, to recover $12000 by using lawyers is probably going to be a waste of $ - I can see a legal bill about $5000 at least (which would cover 10 - 15 hours work), totally not worth it. Even if they got judgment there is the question of how it could be enforced. On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, The Archiver thearchi...@thearchiver.netwrote: That's absolute Gold! There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web now. His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend. Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is out of order. I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin. The Archiver On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site on Resident Advisor. If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first rate example. m On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by the fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian promoters and Lil Louis. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion... http://www.whoislillouis.com/ Enjoy! Patrick.