RE: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.

2012-12-01 Thread The Archiver
That's absolute Gold!

There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses
are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web
now.

His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall
Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend.

Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is
out of order.  I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him
after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't
turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin.

The Archiver


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com
wrote:
That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site
on Resident Advisor.

If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first
rate example.

m

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by the
 fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian
 promoters and Lil Louis.

 It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion...

 http://www.whoislillouis.com/

 Enjoy!
 Patrick.





Re: (313) roll call?

2012-12-01 Thread darkcube
hello, indeed.

- darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]

On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:

 Hi there.
 
 
 Erik Cronin
 http://codine.com
 
 From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com
 To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
 Subject: (313) roll call?
 
 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 m50
 
 
 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?
 
 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?
 
 
 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good 
 to be back!
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) roll call?

2012-12-01 Thread Placid
Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed, but 
still posting,  just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record collection) so 
don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying and playing out

P


Sent from my iPhone

On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube darkc...@datavibe.net wrote:

 hello, indeed.
 
 - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]
 
 On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 
 
 Erik Cronin
 http://codine.com
 
 From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com
 To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
 Subject: (313) roll call?
 
 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 m50
 
 
 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?
 
 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?
 
 
 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good 
 to be back!
 


Re: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.

2012-12-01 Thread Mel N
Wow I had no idea those forums got that long in like, 2 days...

Can't believe the publicist went public, if the promotors had hired lawyers
LL should have got his own lawyers quickly onto it to shut it down and
negotiate an outcome.

On my quick analysis if it was unlikely that the promotors would get their
$ back the best thing for them was to just go public and win it that way
(even if it meant it showed how naive they were). Sadly, to recover $12000
by using lawyers is probably going to be a waste of $ - I can see a legal
bill about $5000 at least (which would cover 10 - 15 hours work), totally
not worth it.  Even if they got judgment there is the question of how it
could be enforced.



On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, The Archiver thearchi...@thearchiver.netwrote:

 That's absolute Gold!

 There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses
 are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web
 now.

 His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall
 Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend.

 Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is
 out of order.  I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him
 after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't
 turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin.

 The Archiver


 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site
 on Resident Advisor.

 If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first
 rate example.

 m

 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by the
  fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian
  promoters and Lil Louis.
 
  It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion...
 
  http://www.whoislillouis.com/
 
  Enjoy!
  Patrick.






Re: (313) Not quite 313 but close. Epic story about a failed Lil Louis show.

2012-12-01 Thread Michael Elliot-Knight
Those poor promoters.  They should have walked away much earlier, when the
whole fiasco with the sorting out of who his official rep was.

I know they say they're the types who do it for the love of the music but
sometimes it is better off following the head and not the heart.
Especially when there's thousands of other people's dollars at stake.

MEK

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Mel N mymachines...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow I had no idea those forums got that long in like, 2 days...

 Can't believe the publicist went public, if the promotors had hired
 lawyers LL should have got his own lawyers quickly onto it to shut it down
 and negotiate an outcome.

 On my quick analysis if it was unlikely that the promotors would get their
 $ back the best thing for them was to just go public and win it that way
 (even if it meant it showed how naive they were). Sadly, to recover $12000
 by using lawyers is probably going to be a waste of $ - I can see a legal
 bill about $5000 at least (which would cover 10 - 15 hours work), totally
 not worth it.  Even if they got judgment there is the question of how it
 could be enforced.



 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, The Archiver 
 thearchi...@thearchiver.netwrote:

 That's absolute Gold!

 There was alarm bells ringing through the whole story, Lil Louis excuses
 are a bit thin , he'll lose the most from this as it's all over the web
 now.

 His Publicist needs to learn to stay out of forum debates. Even Marshall
 Jefferson has jumped to the defense of his friend.

 Even if the promoters were a bit naive, for him to take nearly €12,000 is
 out of order.  I can imagine promoters will think twice about booking him
 after this episode. I'm sure it happens lots of times that artist don't
 turn up and don't give the fee back. I've seen it happen here in Dublin.

 The Archiver


 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 That is nothing, go read the 440+ comment long thread about this site
 on Resident Advisor.

 If you are looking for a message board trainwreck, this is a first
 rate example.

 m

 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If you have about 30 mins to spare, go grab a coffee, a warm place by
 the
  fire and settle in and read this whole cluster between some Australian
  promoters and Lil Louis.
 
  It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion...
 
  http://www.whoislillouis.com/
 
  Enjoy!
  Patrick.