Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT

2013-01-29 Thread David Smith
I don't want to get into the politics.  But in my opinion, strife 
creates better art.  On a positive note: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/light-rail-detroit-mass-transit_n_2503995.html


The core of the city is actually doing pretty well from an aesthetic 
stand-point.


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Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Dust

On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:39, David Smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't want to get into the politics.  But in my opinion, strife creates 
 better art.  

And if you think about that statement you know it's utter BS.

Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT

2013-01-29 Thread David Smith
Which mine or the GM executives?  Mine is pure opinion, I prefer dark 
art.  I actually live in Detroit, this is nothing new.  Bankruptcy?  pff 
whatever.  The state's take-over tactic isn't ever going to happen 
unless Detroit does declare bankruptcy, why?  because if the State were 
to actually take Detroit over it would incur the debt as well.


On 01/29/2013 11:43 AM, Martin Dust wrote:

On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:39, David Smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote:


I don't want to get into the politics.  But in my opinion, strife creates 
better art.

And if you think about that statement you know it's utter BS.




Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT

2013-01-29 Thread Martin
Hi David,

I've seen this statement loads of late...

 strife creates better art.

It must be because the Tories are back in but it's such an utter nonsense 
statement that even if you think about it for 1 minute it comes crumbling down.





Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT

2013-01-29 Thread kent williams
I think part of the point Martin is making is that 'strife' -- and
bankruptcy, and bad policing, and corrupt city government -- just
makes everyone miserable. What affect it has or doesn't have on
artists is beside the point. Artists are a very small percentage of
the population, and if they need things to be falling down around them
to create, there's something wrong with them.  At any rate, for every
artist there's a thousand people who arent artists, and they deserve
better.

There might be some correlation between periods of social upheaval and
great art, but it isn't worth it as a tool for creativity.

To suggest that it's OK because hey, Detroit Techno! could only occur
to someone from a position of privilege, who is a bystander to the
strife, who can remove themselves from it if they choose.

Hell, while there are definitely Detroit musicians born and raised in
the city of Detroit, the originators started their musical adventures
in Belleville, which is very suburban and quiet.