Re: (313) venting
On Fri, March 28, 2008 9:58 am, robin wrote: On 28 Mar 2008, at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? Thank god someone wants to talk about music. oh what the hey.. DJ T-1000 - Old School Prep Mix The Playlist: http://tinyurl.com/3cuwms The mix: http://www.puresonikrecords.net/mp3/oldschoolmix.mp3 marina robin...
RE: (313) the king of techno on downloading
yes its mr. may. On Tue, February 5, 2008 8:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. May? I can't get either link to work - maybe there's tech problem as I can't get through by searching Myspace either. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2008 13:04 http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=51930230blogID=354791996 Tuesday, February 05, 2008 the last days Current mood: amused Category: Music http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewCategoryFriendID=51930230BlogCategoryID=15 what a boring time to be a Dj , no more record shops, sitting on line listening to downloads is the most irritating thing Ive had to do in a long time,(WHACK IS THE WORD) the worst thing is to download a track thinking it might be hot only to play it and its shit, there is no way listening to a track on a computer on the fly ( IN A HURRY) is the same as bangin it on a system to get the feel. This is not the future myself and Juan Atkins envisioned , but it is what it is,,,ain't it! ill keep bangin vinyl till its no more ,Cd's i can live with but downloads i ain't down for the load mofoes look like there checking there email. welcome to the bland future.
Re: (313) Submerge on vinyl, Ron Murphy and much more
RIGHT ON!!! M. On Sun, January 20, 2008 3:23 am, Fred Heutte wrote: Found this on the Submerge site . . . with a shout out to Ron Murphy as you'll see ... [with edits to avoid the 313 Filter G] Submerge would like to sincerely thank everybody for yet another year of underground music! Is vinyl dead?Is Detroit dead? Well according to all of you guys...hell f### naw!! We are like the energizer bunny while others fall off and die we just keep going and going and going!! Speaking of falling off it is becoming apparent that many large distributors and retailers are falling off. And often this worries people as to the life expentancy of vinyl. Do not fear!! Its simple...when you sell bulls###.eventually people figure it out!! When you buy according to the latest magazines and fads that feature the latest $3000 a month publicist backed artists dont feel bad when people dont buy the s### cause it doesnt work on the dancefloor!! This music lives,breathes and dies on top of some 1200's and in the hearts of the people dancing to it. No amount of publicity, hype or fashion can dress up a turd or purchase a child of the underground. So people UR truly the spirit that keeps all of this alive. We will continue to struggle with our low fi, basement/bedroom productions,edited by crazy ass Floyd on the 1/4 2 track,artwork by Haqq or Frankie on their Mac's,mastered by grumpy ass Ron Murphy, plated by Desmond @ Mastercraft, pressed by Mike, Kenny or Andy at Archers on the eastside, picked up by one of my just outta jail or addict in recovery crew who i always have to give a job to or it just wouldnt be me, packed and shipped by my sister Bridgette in a recycled box thats probably been around the world 10 times and pissed on by my dog Tank and then faithfully picked up by our UPS man Matt everyday at 4pm and shipped to Everywhere, Planet Earth zip code 33 1/3. When this much reality and soul touches every record you buy from here it really makes a digital download seem quite void and vunerable. Circles have no end!! Long Live Vinyl and Happy New Years to you and yoursMad Mike/UR/Submerge www.submerge.com M. Tang | A R/Label Mgr. Generator email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming January 2008: GEN030 - Mauser / Jack Orchestra (12) A deep jackin' combination of Chicago 'jack trax' instrumentation, acid basslines, and a little Detroit techno soul. UP NEXT: GEN031 - Various Artists - World Sonik Evolution (2x12) Featuring new music from DJ T-1000, Jamal Moss aka Hieroglypic Being, Terrence Dixon, and more... Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
(313) Record Stores Syntax
Hi all, Curious, where do some of you buy techno (domestic import) in the US? By the way, a little bird told me that its official: Syntax is the next casualty in distribution closings. m.
Re: (313) Record Stores Syntax
that sucks, even if you put your package attention to buyer, the workers steal the promos? m. On Thu, January 10, 2008 12:02 pm, JT Stewart wrote: i don't think that's quite right, although it doesn't help when you're trying to get distrib/sales, you send promos to places, and they get snatched by people who work there before the people in charge get to hear it. that happened with us and hardwax. it's more that the people who run/work at a lot of distribs/stores are part of the floundering dj/club scene, and focus their stock accordingly. On Jan 10, 2008 12:50 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the elephant in the room is that for a very long time, and still in a lot of ways, there has been an internal conflict in that the people who work for record stores and distros were primarily DJs who don't really want to sell records because they want to keep them to themselves. The cult of the whitelabel, so to speak. M. Tang | A R/Label Mgr. Generator email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming January 2008: GEN030 - Mauser / Jack Orchestra (12) A deep jackin' combination of Chicago 'jack trax' instrumentation, acid basslines, and a little Detroit techno soul. UP NEXT: GEN031 - Various Artists - World Sonik Evolution (2x12) Featuring new music from DJ T-1000, Jamal Moss aka Hieroglypic Being, Terrence Dixon, and more... Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Record Stores Syntax
agreed. On Thu, January 10, 2008 11:50 am, Frank Glazer wrote: I think the elephant in the room is that for a very long time, and still in a lot of ways, there has been an internal conflict in that the people who work for record stores and distros were primarily DJs who don't really want to sell records because they want to keep them to themselves. The cult of the whitelabel, so to speak.
Re: (313) Record Stores Syntax
On Thu, January 10, 2008 12:25 pm, JT Stewart wrote: well, i probably didn't put attention to buyer on the packages, just addressed it to soso distribution. this was years and years ago...im not so unsmart no mo sho nuff =) ps haven't checked the clips yet, but that new generator sounds juicey aw shucks, thanks. GEN30 clips are up but GEN031 is in prep now so no clips just yet. it will include new cover art from Oldham too. http://www.crosstalkchicago.com/newfeatures/featured/weeklies/featured.html peace, marina On Jan 10, 2008 1:10 PM, Generator Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that sucks, even if you put your package attention to buyer, the workers steal the promos? m. M. Tang | A R/Label Mgr. Generator email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming January 2008: GEN030 - Mauser / Jack Orchestra (12) A deep jackin' combination of Chicago 'jack trax' instrumentation, acid basslines, and a little Detroit techno soul. UP NEXT: GEN031 - Various Artists - World Sonik Evolution (2x12) Featuring new music from DJ T-1000, Jamal Moss aka Hieroglypic Being, Terrence Dixon, and more... Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of
that or elist.resynthesize was just on there today. m. On Thu, January 10, 2008 6:19 pm, kent williams wrote: Well the archives are in kind of a parlous state. I set up archiving to mail-archive.com, but they didn't end up pulling in the archives before sometime mid-2006, so if you want to search prior to that, you have to go to the raw mbox files on hyperreal.org I'd normally be concerned about ad hominem attacks on 313, but between /0 and tomcox, they seem to enjoy goading each other so much that it would be a shame to step in. On Jan 10, 2008 5:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_5mp4Ghmgfeature=related it's 2008 now right? prize the first one who can find in the archives when this playpen fight started MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/10/2008 05:32:35 PM: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/10/2008 05:30:48 PM:
Re: (313) old school chicago house mixes
yikes, this is definitely a trip on the 'wayback' machine. it all puts a smile on my face...thanks for the links. m. On Thu, October 25, 2007 1:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thought people might be interested http://www.nuyoshi.com/wbmx.htm M. Tang | A R Generator email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Up next: GEN030 - Mauser / Jack Orchestra (12) Deep jackin' Chicago trax/Detroit soul with acid basslines. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
RE: (313) Speaking of returns...
hi all, you can hear sound clips and get more info on the new generator record @ www.generatormusic.com its a bit on the electro-industrial tip, but definitely check out the Keith Tucker Remix, its my fave. to hear sound clips of Alan's Art of Transformation, go to www.puresonikrecords.net he's working on Art Of Transformation 2 as we speak. many thanks for listening everyone, marina Odeluga, Ken wrote: See it's only limited to 100 copies but still, I would have liked to have heard it. http://www.discogs.com/release/799471 -Original Message- From: P.A. Keur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 July 2007 15:26 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Speaking of returns... See http://digitalsweatshop.blogspot.com/ for his weblog. He is still DJ-ing and released an album last year: The Art of Transformation on Xfive. I always liked his stuff, wonder what this sounds like. On 7/31/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a record shop last night here in London I saw this new record on Generator. I didn't listen or buy as I'd already run out of time and money but the remix roster intrigues already... http://www.discogs.com/release/1016314 M. Tang | A R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Out now: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12) Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Detroit arcadia: Exploring the post-American landscape
I saw an interview with her on our local PBS station a few weeks ago and was blown away by her story and was disappointed that I didn't know of her sooner, being Chinese myself an all. Thanks for the link though, -marina Greg Earle wrote: Does anyone subscribe to Harper's Magazine? http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/0081594 A friend forwarded this excerpt: ... inside that stockade of racial divide and urban decay are visionaries, and their visions are tender, hopeful, and green. Grace Lee Boggs, at ninety-one, has been political active in the city for more than half a century. Born in Providence to Chinese immigrant parents, she got a Ph.D. in philosophy from Bryn Mawr in 1940 and was a classical Marxist when she married the labor organizer Jimmy Boggs, in 1953. That an Asian woman married to a Black man could become a powerful force was just another wrinkle in the racial politics of Detroit. Indeed, her thinking evolved along with the radical politics of the city itself. During the 1960s, the Boggses were dismissive of Martin Luther King Jr. and ardent about Black Power, but as Grace acknowledged when we sat down together in her big shady house in the central city, ``The Black Power movement, which was very powerful here, concentrated only on power and had no concept of the challenges that would face a Black-powered administration.'' When Coleman Young took over City Hall, she said, he could start fixing racism in the Police department and the Fire department, but when it came time to do something about Henry Ford and General Motors, he was helpless. We thought that all we had to do was transform the system, that all the problems were on the other side. ... When she and Jimmy crusaded against Young's plans to rebuild the city around casinos, they realized they had to come up with real alternatives, and they began to think about what a local, sustainable economy would look like. They had already begun to realize that Detroit's lack of participation in the mainstream offered an opportunity to do everything differently -- that instead of retreating back to a better relationship to Capitalism, to industry, and to the mainstream, the city could move forward, turn its liabilities into assets, and create an economy entirely apart from the trans-national webs of corporations and petroleum. Jimmy Boggs described his alternative vision in a 1988 speech at the First Unitarian-Universalist Church of Detroit. We have to get rid of the myth that there is something sacred about large-scale production for the national and international market, he said. We have to begin thinking of creating small enterprises which produce food, goods, and services for the local market, that is, for our communities and for our city ... In order to create these new enterprises, we need a view of our city which takes into consideration both the natural resources of our area and the existing and potential skills and talents of Detroiters. That was the vision, and it is only just starting to become a reality. ``Now a lot of what you see is vacant lots,'' Grace told me. ``Most people see only disaster and the end of the world. On the other hand, artists in particular see the potential, the possibility of bringing the country back into the city, which is what we really need. - Greg M. Tang | A R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12) Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Justice
Nevermind rolling stones or spinwhat about that Ford commercial??? I personally thought it was the Jackie Robinson moment for Detroit Techno, the break this music was waiting for. I thought it was the greatest thing ever to happen to this music and it was a sign of things to come for this music ACROSS the board. But nooo, mugs' egos and the lack of foresight by everyone, including the audience ruined it. And none of it was Ford's fault either. So basically we all saw what happened if this music TRIED to leave the underground. It still kills me to this day of that missed opportunity. Marina J.T. wrote: but I guess I just don't get what *would* be a genuine way of calling attention to the music? (in contrast to this disingenuous manner). well put..i agree with most of what tom is saying at some level, but it's impossibly idealistic and entirely speculative. idealism is vital tho. but yeah. who knows exactly what would happen if somehow someway the crazy real club stuff got mainstream coverage, but i highly doubt it would take off like spank rock, there's no foundation for it too. the foundation ahs to be built sometime somewhere though if something like that is ever going to happen. i remember how excited i was to see articles in rolling stone and spin some years back about the belleville 3, thinking yes, the rest of the world is finally going to wake up to this brilliant music and real dance music will become a viable part of the music industry!bzzt! but then again, it depends on your pov. playlists from ibiza have gotten better, and i'm certainly happier to see kompakt inhabiting the same space moonshine and company used to. it could be better, maybe, but it could also be much worse. something is usually better than nothing, and that goes for spank's mis-credit as bmore club as well M. Tang | A R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12) Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Justice
Everyone or anyone making this type of music. Yes, they showed the ad but this stuff takes a while since this music doesn't conform to stereotypes. And one commerical isn't going to do it but its a start. It would have encouraged challenging creativity in the music for different purposes. Major/indie films, commercials, and you know what? Hell, why not even maxipad commericals? Female techno producers can hit that. What's wrong with it, if done tastefully? At least the opportunities will be there, whether or not the artist is brought upfront like Juan was or doing a project inconspicuously like I happen to hear a track used on CSI Vegas by Basic Channel I think it was. That's all I'm saying. Opportunity. We always b*tch n' moan about people like Moby, Paul Oakenfold, Tiesto seeing them in something prominent but yet when its good underground Detroit Techno music tries to get a chance to really be included tastefully in mainstream culture, it gets slapped back. H, I REALLY wonder why... M. kent williams wrote: I'm not entirely sure who it is you think missed the opportunity. They showed that ad a lot, and if anyone watching TV thought 'wow what is that?' they could have hit the internet to find out. I'm sure there is someone out there that saw that commercial and was turned on to the music, but that happened before licensing music for a commercial became a big deal. Now every band's dream is to sell a track for a commercial, and their CDs go out with stickers that say AS HEARD IN THE LATEST STAY FRESH MAXIPAD COMMERCIAL. That was also when people thought a half million people were showing up at DEMF. I'm not sure the US is ever going to take Techno out of the underground. All the American artists making the music make most of their money overseas. The majority of Americans are so musically conservative that Radiohead is considered edgy for using electronic percussion. Most Americans are turned off by any music that doesn't feature a prominent vocal. On 6/29/07, Generator Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevermind rolling stones or spinwhat about that Ford commercial??? I personally thought it was the Jackie Robinson moment for Detroit Techno, the break this music was waiting for. I thought it was the greatest thing ever to happen to this music and it was a sign of things to come for this music ACROSS the board. But nooo, mugs' egos and the lack of foresight by everyone, including the audience ruined it. And none of it was Ford's fault either. So basically we all saw what happened if this music TRIED to leave the underground. It still kills me to this day of that missed opportunity. Marina M. Tang | A R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12) Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
throw Generator in the ring as well. =D m. Hear Hear! I'll take this moment to announce new Technoir Audio releases are forthcoming, vinyl only. We are doing our part:) jw On 6/26/07, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah i think it's the online shopping taking hold more than anything else. you don't see many people at all in stores that carry only cd's either, really. i'm pretty tired of hearing the sky is falling, honestly. in the usa at least, i hear straight from the source (pressing plants) that major labels are doing more vinyl than they have for years, and that 7s are huge with indie labels bands again. maybe dance music may need some juicing up or something, but vinyl is nowhere near death. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open! Not sure that's the case over here - see my previous mail. Of course part of the reason that shops here are having a hard time is vinyl as well as downloads being bought online but it's a worrying situation nevertheless. -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2007 17:57 personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the bleeding has stopped. -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world M. Tang | A R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12) Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) derrick may on RA
my picks would be: kevin - Morris chestnut - http://tinyurl.com/3dw4hd Derrick - Katt williams - http://tinyurl.com/2m9ds8 juan - cuba gooding jr - http://tinyurl.com/3xeq7x eddie - marlon wayans (he might be a little young looking but...) - http://tinyurl.com/33sdap http://tinyurl.com/36vhdc carl - terrence howard...maybe http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=823 funny. let's pick actors who we would want to see play all the techno originators in the fiction version of hi tech soul. tom M. Tang | A R | Label Mgr Generator email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive 12 with DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser Remixes
Re: (313) Chicago happenings?
mos def stop by KStarke Records @ 1109 N. Western Ave. its a collector's heaven. m. I'm in Chicago for a couple of weeks from Thursday. Can any locals recommend any parties? How about record shopping - I'll definitely be going to Gramaphone and Mr Peabodys - anywhere else I should be checking out? Thanks
Re: (313) derrick may on RA
hmmm, i don't know about Forest for Shake. i'm iffy on that one. I'd see Charles S Dutton as Shake more so than The Wizard. LOL m. On 6/13/07, Generator Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my picks would be: kevin - Morris chestnut - http://tinyurl.com/3dw4hd Derrick - Katt williams - http://tinyurl.com/2m9ds8 thats a good one for derrick! juan - cuba gooding jr - http://tinyurl.com/3xeq7x should read cuba gooding jr + prosthetic forehead eddie - marlon wayans (he might be a little young looking but...) - http://tinyurl.com/33sdap http://tinyurl.com/36vhdc carl - terrence howard...maybe yeah these are all good, terrence howard would definitely be good as carl. i think shake should be played by Forest Whitaker. tom
