RE: [313] Derrick May questions?

2001-02-14 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
I was thinking the same thing, just last week.  I think what's going on with
Derrick, is that he's a perfectionist.  

I've got a question for all of you.  What do you think an award/trophy
Derrick May received in 1987 from a Metro Detroit radio station would fetch
on Ebay?  It was for "Best Dance Group".  Funny that's how they classified
Techno then, for lack of a better category.  

I'm not saying it's for sale, just curious.  Though I did tell Derrick when
he was (more) famous, I was going to sell it.  He probably doesn't remember
he received the award, let alone gave it to me.   

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From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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why no innovator action recently besides a remix and DJing...us techno
purists are getting greedy and need something from you.  

JEFF!



> -Original Message-
> From: Gerald [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:17 PM
> To:   313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [313] Derrick May questions?
> 
> Just wanted to know if any of you out there has any questions you would
> like to ask the Innovator?
> 
> I might get the opportunity to interview him on my show tomorrow. The
> last word i got from his agent was "..it looks like we should be able to
> stop by. We have some other interviews to do, we just have to work out a
> schedule."
> 
> Well, it isn't a 100% confirmation, but I guess that's as good as I'm
> going to get. I still have to prepare, and keep my fingers crossed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> G
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[313] Derrick May questions?

2001-02-14 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
I was thinking the same thing, just last week.  I think what's going on with
Derrick, is that he's a perfectionist.  

I've got a question for all of you.  What do you think an award/trophy
Derrick May received in 1987 from a Metro Detroit radio station would fetch
on Ebay?  It was for "Best Dance Group".  Funny that's how they classified
Techno then, for lack of a better category.  

I'm not saying it's for sale, just curious.  Though I did tell Derrick when
he was (more) famous, I was going to sell it.  He probably doesn't remember
he received the award, let alone gave it to me.   

-Original Message-
From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:18 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] Derrick May questions?


why no innovator action recently besides a remix and DJing...us techno
purists are getting greedy and need something from you.  

JEFF!






RE: [313] re: Derrick May questions?-black history month

2001-02-14 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
I get where you're going.  What it comes down to is Music, any kind, whoever
makes it, from whatever race etc. will be "adopted" by those that enjoy it,
identify w/ it etc..  The audience may change, but CREATORS don't!  Rap has
African, African/American roots, but that white boy Eminem kicks.  Techno
was born from the collective experiences of three Detroit, middle class
African Americans, that doesn't mean their music CAN or should be restricted
to "their people".

As to why Techno's black roots are overlooked, I think its because most
"musicians" don't accept the music as "music", so the issue of its black
roots is mute.  I think their attitude is, if a person is not creating the
music form a recognized "musical instrument", note by note, its not music,
its mixing, editing etc.  

Let's see how long it takes the "music industry", as a whole, to recognize
that a musical creation does not begin with a single sound of a single
instrument.  Techno is much more complex.  Why isn't a record, a mixing
board etc. not viewed as a musical instrument equal to a piano,
guitar.or when will it be.

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From: nancy mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Otto Koppius; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?-black history month


So ...I was at a small gathering last night of
industry people that came to hear about Black Music:
Past , Present & Future with Jimmy Starks & Hal
Jackson speaking. 
Of course I would go!!!
 who would not want to hear these two HISTORICAL men
speak about this music & their amazing lives.

Some of the things you are talking about were covered
during Q&A at the end.
 Something I have always wondered, is why Does detroit
techno ( a black music) always get over looked as
such.
 Or maybe I am over looking things, but I dont think I
see Vibe writing about the music or the aritist and
their accomplishments... what about BET, or the black
music departments in  record labels, the black radio
stations etc...

I am kind of talking all over the place but, Jimmy
also talked about sampling and how he hates that you
can hear him more now than we he made records with
James brown etc.. and he gets nothing for it, and
people probably have no idea it is his guitar they
sampled.
He  also feels very strong about live music, and
everyone was talking about how live instruments are
coming back.
And the electronic music will die out soon.
A&R development people were talking about how they are
soon to have certain R&B/Hip-hop acts go on the road
with live bands instead of a DJ etc... R&B produces
are talking about working with live musicians from now
on and creating more jobs in the community as well as
building albums not hit cookie cutter singles.

I do beleive there is a strong future for electronic
music, I mean think about when you have kids, they
will grow up with this music always listening to
electronic music. Just think what the music they make
will sound like!! When my generation grew up & before
we had many influences, but there was know blueprint
for detroit techno, the black music of the past
present & future.

again talking all over the place.sorry, bare with me..

Hal, talked of how he hates this eminem character
getting all of these awards ... it really seemed to
bother him because it is a black music, well DR> Dre
does make his tracks right,I completely understand
where he is coming from and have even heard the same
comments about techno & how this scene is mostly
white, and the white artist get all of the press,
credit,deals etc.

I dont know where I am going with this , just thought
I would share my night with ya'll.. I have lots more
to say but will shut up as I know someone on here is
going to rip me to shreds as always.(not that I care)


best,
nancy

--- Otto Koppius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary Girard in response to Mike Taylor:
> 
> > A bit of generalising if ever I saw it! Now you're
> getting into race issues (I
> > would assume you're of black origin to make such
> comments). I appreciate melodic
> > tunes as much as anyone, but in a club on a big
> soundsystem the Richie Hawtin
> > style works well.
> > 
> > Just remember - white men can funk!
> 
> And [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>  
> > > It was sad, because Derrick's set was so much
> better, and so completely over
> > > their head.
> > 
> > DAMN THOSE WHITE PEOPLE, THEY JUST DONT GET IT!
> > 
> > keeping racial distinctions alive well into the
> 21st century,
> 
> Let's keep things in perspective, shall we? 
> Mike was making an observation of the behavior of
> the white crowd at the
> DEMF during Derrick May's set and Richie Hawtin's
> set. Those who were
> there can confirm that it was a pretty accurate
> observation (and before
> anyone asks, no, I wasn't there myself, I had to
> leave DEMF before
> Monday, but Mike's observation has been echoed by
> many people that I
> spoke to afterwards).
> 
> Assuming that the majority of people were the

regarding Chinese burns for Derrick

2001-02-22 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
> I'm gonna clear up how Derrick May would respond to the threat of Chinese
> burns, to force him to produce a new album.
> 
> I shared the email with him and ...you ready for his response?.You
> sure?..He laughed!... Sorry though, he said nothing about bestowing
> any new music on us. :*(


RE: [313] Spirit of Marvin Gaye

2001-03-08 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
The old Motown studio IS the Motown Museum!  It is now called, "Hitsville
USA", because of copyright issues relating to the "Motown" name.  

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From: Jan D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:55 AM
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i'm not sure about the old motown studio, but there are a few of the old 
recording studios on second between i-94 and grand boulevard that may still 
be open.
there is also a motown museum located on grand boulevard west of woodward 
that is open at very obscure times, but worth looking in to.

btw...(to all detroiters) isn't it so cool that there are people coming to 
detroit that want to do tourist type things?

>From: "Paul V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [313] Spirit of Marvin Gaye
>Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:35:46 -0500
>
>Hey all;
>
>I just wanted to know if the Old Motown studio building is still standing 
>in
>D.
>
>and if so where is it located?
>
>I'm from Toronto Canada and have only been to Detroit a couple of times but
>like many of you will be there once again in May and this site is #1 on my
>tourist list of things to do and see.
>
>Thanks people
>
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RE: D. May tonight

2001-03-08 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio

FYI:

Derrick May 
March 8, 2001
The Temple
Ferndale, MI USA

ONLY $5.00 WOW!!!

*just voted Best DJ, in local entertainment mag.
 


RE: [313] "Big Fun" in OLD NAVY??

2001-03-14 Thread Oxholm-Flores, Rocio
It's been awhile, but weirder still...I was in Egypt in the early 90's and
"Big Fun" was playing at the Hotel disco.  Most of the people in the club
were Egyptian males.  It's a trip to dance to Detroit sound all the way in
Egypt!

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From: Peter T. Bense [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:41 PM
To: 313
Subject: [313] "Big Fun" in OLD NAVY??


Not totally off topic... but I was in old navy today picking up some pocket 
tees... and I heard none other than Saunderson's "Big Fun".  Totally weird.

Actually, weird as it sounds, I kind of like the music they have in that 
store.  Also heard "When Doves Cry" by Prince and a few other pretty cool 
tracks.  I think they actually make Old Navy compilations of some sort -- 
there must be some clever individual behind all that.


Enough rambling.


/peter


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