Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Kent and list, This post is totally awesome. I agree completely. Mike Huckaby does impressive things for Detroit. It wasn't too long ago that he lost his job at Record Time after 14 years of amazing education and service to Detroit and was faced with trying to figure out new ways to make a living and contributing to Detroit at the same time. Clearly he is succeeding at this. Denise On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:43 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://schoolcraftwax.com/
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Yeah, his Sun Ra edits are wonderful! Denise On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: Mike came to Portland back in June did something quite extraordinary -- a set of Sun Ra classics and his edits (which are being released on Kindred Spirits, a label associated with Rush Hour in Amsterdam). He's been doing these sets on occasion over the last year or so. http://www.kindred-spirits.nl/release_detail.php?idxItem=58807 fh -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://schoolcraftwax.com/
RE: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Mark Pritchard of ambient group Global Communication fame has a serious love for Detroit hip hop. His Harmonic 313 releases sound like the late, great J-Dilla and Robert Hood got locked in a studio together with Richie Hawtin and Dan Bell sitting in on occasion. Pritchard created an album that sounds so much like Detroit hip hop that Guilty Simpson and frequent Dilla collaborator Steve Spacek sound right at home on the tracks they appeared on. I found out about his stuff from GC's Fabric mix CD (Fabric 26 - Global Communication) where I noticed several Detroit hip hop artists in the mix as well as the Harmonic 313 track Arc Light. I'll give Pritchard a pass, he does Detroit well. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:04 AM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
RE: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
You would probably have to sit through J-Dilla's later catalog (Champion Sound, Ruff Draft, Donuts, The Shining, etc), Black Milk's stuff, Waajeed/Platinum Pied Pipers, and outside of Detroit check some Madlib work to get the connection. The release I'm referring to is When Machines Exceed Human Intelligence. With the exception of one track, I though it was pretty good. _ From: Carl Allen [mailto:72t...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:44 PM To: logic7 Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Truthfully I didn't think much of the harmonic 313 release, it lacked soul and neither guilty or Ronnie gave it much by my mark, disappointing really and could someone explain to me how it was hip hop orientated? it felt more dubstep/electronic, maybe i just got the wrong release... On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:32 AM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: Mark Pritchard of ambient group Global Communication fame has a serious love for Detroit hip hop. His Harmonic 313 releases sound like the late, great J-Dilla and Robert Hood got locked in a studio together with Richie Hawtin and Dan Bell sitting in on occasion. Pritchard created an album that sounds so much like Detroit hip hop that Guilty Simpson and frequent Dilla collaborator Steve Spacek sound right at home on the tracks they appeared on. I found out about his stuff from GC's Fabric mix CD (Fabric 26 - Global Communication) where I noticed several Detroit hip hop artists in the mix as well as the Harmonic 313 track Arc Light. I'll give Pritchard a pass, he does Detroit well.
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Motor City Drum Ensemble is AMAZING though, and his sound is actually rooted in Detroit music. Plus he plays 313 tracks, check out the DJ-Kicks tracklist: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dj-kicks/id442897889 . Rob Hood and Recloose in there, also some love for Chi, Sun Ra, Rick Poppa Howard and Mr. Fingers in the mix... But here is what MCDE himself has to say--ya'll can judge for yourselves! http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/interview-motor-city-drum-ensemble/ Interviewer Why Detroit? MCDE For me it’s just a big fascination, I know a lot about the history of the records and music that was before such as Motown and jazz labels like Strata, not only the techno and house history. In this music you can hear the struggle of people trying to survive, social issues, before there were human rights for everybody. You can hear so many emotions. I’ve never heard so many emotions as I have from the tracks of Detroit. The fascination of Detroit, is one thing that some people think, because I am white and from a suburban wealthy German city, I don’t really have the right to comment on how things were there, because I’ve never been there. But I can hear so much of that social struggle in the music and it fascinates me deeply. I mean I can’t say I’m a black guy, but it’s not about race. I’m not a poor guy having to struggle, every human being has everyday struggles, for me the best way to express them is through music. I’m not saying I have the same hard times but I can identify with the emotions in the music from Detroit. Music was the only shelter and rescue people had, for me this is something that I want my music to convey and to achieve. Every time I travel I can see not only the good things I can also see what is wrong in society and what should be different and then you hear this music where it can be so touchingly beautiful and being thankful for life and joy. ~David On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:04 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
And the counterpoint: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/07/watch-intruders-tvs-interview-mo m50 At 2011.08.12 08:57, David Powers wrote: Motor City Drum Ensemble is AMAZING though, and his sound is actually rooted in Detroit music. Plus he plays 313 tracks, check out the DJ-Kicks tracklist: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dj-kicks/id442897889 . Rob Hood and Recloose in there, also some love for Chi, Sun Ra, Rick Poppa Howard and Mr. Fingers in the mix... But here is what MCDE himself has to say--ya'll can judge for yourselves! http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/interview-motor-city-drum-ensemble/ Interviewer Why Detroit?⨠MCDE For me itâs just a big fascination, I know a lot about the history of the records and music that was before such as Motown and jazz labels like Strata, not only the techno and house history. In this music you can hear the struggle of people trying to survive, social issues, before there were human rights for everybody. You can hear so many emotions. Iâve never heard so many emotions as I have from the tracks of Detroit. The fascination of Detroit, is one thing that some people think, because I am white and from a suburban wealthy German city, I donât really have the right to comment on how things were there, because Iâve never been there. But I can hear so much of that social struggle in the music and it fascinates me deeply. I mean I canât say Iâm a black guy, but itâs not about race. Iâm not a poor guy having to struggle, every human being has everyday struggles, for me the best way to express them is through music. Iâm not saying I have the same hard times but I can identify with the emotions in the music from Detroit. Music was the only shelter and rescue people had, for me this is something that I want my music to convey and to achieve. Every time I travel I can see not only the good things I can also see what is wrong in society and what should be different and then you hear this music where it can be so touchingly beautiful and being thankful for life and joy. ~David On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:04 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing.  He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation.  He did it, I believe, at a personal cost.  If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels.  I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing.  And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit.  In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated  a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit.  There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party.  Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
We've discussed this all for many years on 313. As BMG says in the RA piece, there is a tendency to think that what happens on one weekend in Detroit is how it is all the time. Another tendency is to pay homage to the Belleville Three (usually without delving into the breadth of what they actually accomplished) and forget all that has happened since. Or to focus entirely on one aspect like minimal, etc. Like Motown, Detroit techno has had global influence. But as the RA oral history of the festival last year showed, the mayor of Detroit, Dennis Archer, did not even know about it when the festival idea first surfaced a dozen years ago. The surface view of Detroit electronic music ranges from total hype to total invisibility. The reality is different, much deeper and richer, and ties back to the history of a city that has traced to a stronger degree than most the trajectory of the American economy. fh - I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
So many brilliant and inspiring posts over the last few days have given my enjoyment of the list a shot in the arm. And almost made me feel like a complete idiot! ;-) 'cause I definitely could not say what's been said by you guys any better. Good weekend all, Ken Ken Odeluga Assistant News Editor Markets – Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN ken.odel...@dowjones.com 44 (0) 20 7842 9297 44 (0) 7887793644 - Original Message - From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 07:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA We've discussed this all for many years on 313. As BMG says in the RA piece, there is a tendency to think that what happens on one weekend in Detroit is how it is all the time. Another tendency is to pay homage to the Belleville Three (usually without delving into the breadth of what they actually accomplished) and forget all that has happened since. Or to focus entirely on one aspect like minimal, etc. Like Motown, Detroit techno has had global influence. But as the RA oral history of the festival last year showed, the mayor of Detroit, Dennis Archer, did not even know about it when the festival idea first surfaced a dozen years ago. The surface view of Detroit electronic music ranges from total hype to total invisibility. The reality is different, much deeper and richer, and ties back to the history of a city that has traced to a stronger degree than most the trajectory of the American economy. fh - I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
It behooves you to try! On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: 'cause I definitely could not say what's been said by you guys any better.
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
I think the Ruin Porn was well done and it was nostalgic to remember PBS (Packard BlackSnot). I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before thanks, Jeffrey J Davis www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.83DAVIS j...@jeffreyjdavis.com jeffreyjamesdavis On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Mike came to Portland back in June did something quite extraordinary -- a set of Sun Ra classics and his edits (which are being released on Kindred Spirits, a label associated with Rush Hour in Amsterdam). He's been doing these sets on occasion over the last year or so. http://www.kindred-spirits.nl/release_detail.php?idxItem=58807 fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) shiva http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
BMG is starting to look like a Deadhead! On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, DJ Shiva djsh...@gmail.com wrote: At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) shiva http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Yeah, he's been looking like that for a few years now. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:18 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: BMG is starting to look like a Deadhead! On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, DJ Shiva djsh...@gmail.com wrote: At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) shiva http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Does anyone have a number/email for Brendan that they can pm me on? Haven't been in touch with him since his Record Time days ;-). Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Alexandres Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, he's been looking like that for a few years now. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:18 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: BMG is starting to look like a Deadhead! On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, DJ Shiva djsh...@gmail.com wrote: At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) shiva http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
In reference to the ruin porn: http://www.theonion.com/articles/artists-announce-theyve-found-all-the-beauty-they,20973/ little daily chuckle for ya... ya gotta laugh... :) On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a number/email for Brendan that they can pm me on? Haven't been in touch with him since his Record Time days ;-). Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Alexandres Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, he's been looking like that for a few years now. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:18 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: BMG is starting to look like a Deadhead! On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, DJ Shiva djsh...@gmail.com wrote: At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) shiva http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
(313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32
