Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-21 Thread robin



Stewart Caig wrote:
Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from 
detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and 
received no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and 
log on to the site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!




I've bought something off them. In the email you get with Ship to: and 
Bill To: on it there is a link that says download.


robin...


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-21 Thread David Powers

I never saw this site before, but it looks promising. I'm thinking
about grabbing some of my fav Mr De electrobooty from there, it's
easier to download than to rip the records I already own. I'll buy
good digital versions of tracks even if I already own them. Especially
since both my 1200's are broken and sitting in the corner. I really
hope they might put some more UR classics for sale. It would be nice
if they could expand their selection...

~David

On 12/21/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Stewart Caig wrote:
 Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from
 detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and
 received no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and
 log on to the site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!


I've bought something off them. In the email you get with Ship to: and
Bill To: on it there is a link that says download.

robin...



RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken


-Original Message-
From: Michael Pujos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 December 2006 18:51
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

J.T. a écrit :
 spam! but thought some people would like to know...

 http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096

   
iTunes = no buy.   I hope it's available on other popular sites 
preferably in WAV format.
*

Hey each to their own, but I wouldn't knock iTunes so much myself.

For me iTunes = a reasonably fair, equitable arrangement for both artist and 
industry (no industry, no artist and vice versa, remember?) in which everybody 
who produces gets paid something as opposed to everybody who produces doing it 
for free - as in 'illegal downloads'.

Also, regarding the quality, whilst ITMS files are ostensibly in 128kbps 
format, in fact, with Apple's proprietary 'AAC/m4a' (version of mp3) in reality 
using an average bit-rate, '128' can often mean rates up to 256. (The info is 
all on the web). Also, with the iTunes 'Producers Package', original master 
files from which the consumer files are copied are at a very good resolution, 
again raising the final quality - as I say, if you geek-out enough you can find 
all this - but people often say ITMS songs 'sound better' than 128, and 
certainly a lot of the ones I have heard do.

(Clearly, I don't work for Apple, by the way! Just wanted to give a fair, 
balanced view.)

Ken 


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread kent williams

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread robin


I agree Kent, though in fairness iTunes could be a lot lot worse. The 
DRM (currently) is fairly light and can be sidestepped.


It's the 128k-ness that puts me off. I want 320kbps or full-fat wavs (in 
fact i'd much prefer the wav). For that reason, juno.co.uk or beatport 
are what I'd choose over iTMS.



robin...

kent williams wrote:

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods. Nor is this to decry other good downloading sites - like
Bleep.com - at all.

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 December 2006 13:53
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to  
Rockbox.


On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom


--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 12/20/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to
Rockbox.


i actually used to really like itunes for ease of filing MP3s. but
then they got all nazi on the ability to take things off of ipods and
the like and it got really silly. i went rockbox and i dont regret it
at all.

to


RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I tried Rockbox on my 2nd-gen mini (last before the nano) and it didn't
work. I am 'fick' (as we say here) though, so maybe it's just me.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 December 2006 14:45
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to  
Rockbox.

On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
 also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
 using iPods.

 you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

 http://www.rockbox.org/

 then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

 tom

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Stewart Caig
Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from 
detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and received 
no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and log on to the 
site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!


Stu

- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes



On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom





(313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread J.T.
spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread kent williams

Which is great, but will it be on bleep.com or beatport.com  for those
who haven't been assimilated by iPod yet?

On 12/19/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096



Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread J.T.
yes, all major mp3 sites very soon...think iTunes just gets it first..

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 19, 2006 1:40 PM
To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

Which is great, but will it be on bleep.com or beatport.com  for those
who haven't been assimilated by iPod yet?

On 12/19/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 spam! but thought some people would like to know...

 http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096




Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread Michael Pujos

J.T. a écrit :

spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096

  
iTunes = no buy.   I hope it's available on other popular sites 
preferably in WAV format.